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Huntress

07-08-2003, 11:20 PM

Oh that's terrific Zac...to see your screenies makes it a trip for me to enjoy along with you :) Keep them coming but may I suggest making them a bit smaller? It takes a bit for them to dl for me. One of the pic's didn't turn out for some reason but the rest were fine. It was very enlightning to see your Granade climbing method, LOL

I also got a chuckle out of your Thermo steal :D I did enhance that skill a bit cause it comes in very useful when in a situation where you need more time to wear that kindof gear! Remember your dealing with biochem shinnagins, etc. ;)

Also, you can't shoot a gun under water...you can reuse some of them if there still active...like the flare darts...makes a good way to light your way for brief interludes without making too much light...I rarely ever used the flashlight...too dangerous! Even later, the "Sword" which will be an objective much later, is even better for low light seeing your way. Well I'm getting ahead a bit but some things to keep in mind as you go. :)

Thanks for sharing "Z" and catch ya later. I'm still dealing with DII/X and managing so far but sure am jittery about forging ahead :eek: These monsters are getting tougher and more of them at times hitting me with all kinds of ways to try and hurt me!!! Sometimes lately in the area I'm in now it's been one battle right after the other...not even time to stop and rest abit...Eyaahhh :) Take care and Good Hunting!

Zaccheus

07-08-2003, 11:55 PM

Great fun !
:D

I got all the way to the north docks and met the informant, without any bad guys detecting I was even there. I'm now back on the nearby green grass (where the friendly bot patrols).
Even managed to get all the supplies from the north dock, except the underwater ship which I have not lockpicked yet.

I love the fire extinguisher. Even better than flash bombs in Thief.
After playing around with the guards on the northern dock, I did a reload and snuck past them again.
;)

Now I'm about to go into the statue.
:cool:

And I think it may be possible to use things like the binoculars as a makeshift light meter, because when you carry it around in your hands, you can see how much it is illuminated (in different levels of shadow).

Huntress, if you mean the screen shot which is all white, yeah that's the explosion of three LAMs going off at the same time.
:D

Skylink

07-09-2003, 02:21 AM

watch out for grenades on the walls in the statue

Zaccheus

07-09-2003, 03:24 AM

... put hint into spoiler tags:
Like this
:)

Thanks for the tips, though.

Grenades on the statue walls? Yea, looks like I can do some real climbing now !
:D

Zaccheus

07-09-2003, 02:25 PM

I've reached the top of the statue base via the containers at the NE of the statue, and used the "cattle prod" (once) to take out the guard in the nearby bunker. Got in and out of the bunker without taking any damage from the blue lightning, by activating the fork lift and climbing over the defective equipment. I like the fact that you get bonus points for exploring.
So now I'm on top of the statue base, where you collect the two gas mines from the four-way corridors at the top of the stairs. Hope to go grenade climbing tomorrow, but now it's time for some sleep.

:)

[SYN] Nexus

07-09-2003, 02:26 PM

lol are you posting while you are playing or do you just dont play much.I played all the way too Hells Kitchen the first time I played it (demo not included)

Zaccheus

07-09-2003, 02:31 PM

I normally post after playing, before going to bed.
And I'm taking my time with this game, exploring, trying things out, reloading.
:)

But it's now 11:30 pm and I need to go to work tomorrow.
;)

Skylink

07-10-2003, 12:35 AM

you're playing kinda slow imo :)

Zaccheus

07-10-2003, 03:56 AM

I'm still experimenting with the game engine, testing AIs reactions, etc.

And being an old Thief fan, I try to read and explore everything.
Where there's a hole to look into, or a stack of containers to climb, I will investigate.
:)

Huntress

07-11-2003, 01:25 PM

Hey Skylink...don't judge other's gameplay by your standards please! We are very much of the Stealth type of players as he indicated by being a Thief player on the stealthy side. I took a long time myself and explored everywhere ( and by the way "Z" there's more than one way into Statue as well as some other maps...so explore well and get those added experience points!!!) it will prove very beneficial as you progress :)

However, the one thing bad about fire extinguishers...too bulky to carry around, that's why Zapper is better and still keeps you stealthy since your not killing :) At least for now :D Remember ammo resupply importance from your victims...and hack all the ATM's you find until you find one that is from the same bank and you can't till another area....

Carry on soldier...errr Augman :D Ta and Good Hunting!

Zaccheus

07-12-2003, 12:06 PM

Completed the mission with two or three kills and two or three KOs.

Took the secret tunnel to the rear entrance of the secure area where Herrmann was being held, but couldn't get him out without using my weapons.
Also used the fire extinguisher and 'cattle prod' to KO the two guards near the top of the statue where the leader is. Got him out alive, only to find all the other 'terrorists' where killed by my 'collegues'.
:-(

Huntress, yeah the big red thing is rather bulky, and does not stack (grumble), but it is still good fun, especially when used in conjunction with the zapper (a bit like flashbomb + blackjack in Thief).
:)

Huntress

07-12-2003, 03:01 PM

Yea, that's a difficult area inside where Herman was being kept. Did you think about using the Bot in the South Pier to help you take out your first encounter with the Terroists when getting to UNACO? I didn't the first time but read where someone had done that, so I tried it later and it worked fine, LOL Although I tried something similar with the Bot at the Northgate Pier...none came close enough to make it work with him...just kindof used him as a shield as I made my way over to the crate area, etc. :)

Yea getting into that Bunker with the use of crates and climbing up and over is another way without using Lift...but keep that method in mind for other times and places :) Use those medium cardboard boxes for cover as well when you need to move around (since you can see through them, works really well many times...or the medium with small metal crates to stack and climb :) That's why I never built strengh up in that regard..used my Augs for other installments...pushing takes a bit longer but works fine!!! :D Ta and Good Hunting!

Haunt-of-Doom

07-13-2003, 08:43 AM

Theres a 3rd party mutator for Deus Ex that gives you a light-o'-meter. I believe its called DX Thievery Mutator (dxthieverymutator.zip)

Zaccheus

07-13-2003, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by Haunt-of-Doom
Theres a 3rd party mutator for Deus Ex that gives you a light-o'-meter. I believe its called DX Thievery Mutator (dxthieverymutator.zip)

Yes, thanks, I have downloaded it.
But I won't install it until I've played the game the normal way.
:)

<hr>

Right, I'm now trying to free the hostages on the subway station:
I've found a ventilation system and will be reaching the platform soon.
:)

Zaccheus

07-13-2003, 01:05 PM

But first I had to take care of the Subway hostages:
Climbed out of the bottom vent shaft nearest to the Subway stairs and crawled into a corner. Waited until the guard nearest to me stood still, and then opened fire with my stealth pistol, killing all (four?) terrorists on the platform before they could set off the explosives.

On to "hell's kitchen" and have saved the 'pretty girl' from the pimp, and have chatted to various folks in the bar (but not to the reporter).
Have also gotten into the warehouse and found some interesting passage ways.
Now I'm sitting in my brothers hotel room (nice) and have found his computer terminal.
I guess it's back to that warehouse, next.

:)

bonemachine149

07-13-2003, 01:43 PM

About those hostages:

If/when you replay the game, try letting the NSF blow up the hostages. You get scolded by Alex to no end. It's funny having that scrawny punk scold JC, as if JC couldn't squash him like a bug if he wanted to. ;)

Huntress

07-14-2003, 02:05 AM

I hope you've been raiding the ATM's in all these places? :D As for myself and the hostages, I did my thing from the vent system and my crossbow...took them out from various places w/o being spotted...they didn't know what hit them or from where ;) However, if you screw up the hostage save as was suggested by bonemachine...you don't get your bonus points for saving them! Keep in mind vent accesses in several situations as you go!

How are you liking the music? The music in the New York map I really like a lot and have an extra download of that piece from a site a long time ago so I can play it whenever. When I do, it makes me feel like playing the game again :D

Remember, when you get password for Smuggler's...I have some info for ya :) Also re: the Medical Clinic...talk to second Dr. for best deal...and check behind bar counter...you may have to keep saying no thank you due to the closeness of barmaid...but you can get it done :) By the way...did you find Computer guy's hiding room in UNATCO? ;) Keep checking whenever you go back...all repeat places like this that have stuff. OK my friend..carry on :) Ta and Good Hunting!

Zaccheus

07-14-2003, 04:03 AM

Yeah, one time I shot the TNT from the vent shaft in the ceiling and got "told off". The other time I came out of the wrong vent shaft and got spotted ... the terrorists set off the bomb and I was BBQ.

It's quite disturbing when your character is on fire, and you're running around, only able to see flames, and you hear your character screeming and the health is going down and down until you eventually die.
:o

Huntress, the music is playing in my head even as I type this! How do I switch it off?
:D

Huntress

07-14-2003, 02:56 PM

LOL "Z", I know what you mean about the music and the hot feet!! I also tried that method before I figured out the best way to do it :) Just got overhead and opened the vent doors and stayed back leaning over to use crossbow into some heads :D Then just worked my way around from place to place although difficult because of darkness and my sense of direction :( Eventually got it done and then went down on floor to get others and used various covers and boxes, etc. Beware of other instances of flamethrower carriers...timing is critical just like Thief ;)

Just a little added tidbit to help guide you: Don't sweat Anna...use your Steathy mode for locating something and talk to ppl in and around Park...especially a young boy :) Let your conscience be your guide and what you think is the ethical way to do things. This becomes important later as well ;) Think for yourself...you are a policeman of sorts not a murderer but exceptions need to be made! LOL

Zaccheus

07-15-2003, 03:42 AM

I also find it rather odd that you are allowed to plunder ATMs for cash.
:D

Huntress

07-15-2003, 05:53 PM

Ha, ha yea that is funny...since your supposed to be honest and forthright...but yet you can steal, even from your friends :D

Just be cool about it and watch for cameras, ppl, etc. but you'll even get some codes so you can do it right under some ppl's noses, LOL Stay low ;) Catch ya later with the next report and Good Hunting!

Zaccheus

07-16-2003, 01:37 PM

I've started wandering the rooftops, shooting anything that shows up 'red'.
:D

Big Ragu

07-16-2003, 04:50 PM

I started a new game yesteday, and now my hard drive is on the verge on crashing.:eek: :mad: This is bad.

Huntress

07-17-2003, 02:18 PM

OH yeaaaa!!! Rooftop sniping is the funnest ;) You need to really look good from all angles and keep checking to make sure you got them all.

This is a trick you can only know about by my telling you otherwise your going to be in a lot of hot soup! It's later in the game...but when you get the instruction to meet Dowd the second time your in Hell's Kitchen...you must set up some gas mines at both entries to the back way of Brother's Hotel in the alley...and use some cans/crates from all over to make blockcades of sorts. Critical or you will be overpowered. Don't listen to Dowd(sp?) all the way but most of his info...as soon as you hear Jock say go...go like hell to your ladder and up to meet up on Hotel roof. Once your up there and relatively safe you can try to get some of them but not necessary and wasted ammo mainly...just try to protect yourself as best you can. You'll probably still take some damage but you'll survive ;) I also used one trash can and one small crate to help me jump up to ladder. If you don't do this....GOOD LUCK BABY! LOL Make sure you do everything go everywhere first before you meet up with him! This is a must read for a head's up big helper!!! :D

OK that's my BIG tip of the day...but just for GP here's another little tip for ya...

also the Warehouse caper is a great map to be real stealthy and timing, etc. and using zapper and/or tranqs...gas mines to help you eliminate or stall from them getting at you while you try to kill them off as you make your way up to computer for shutdown that should be coming up soon I think, LOL

Also soon you should be getting the request to save Smuggler's friend...there are two sewer holes, only one is the best way in :) Ta and Good Hunting!

WSimons

07-17-2003, 04:03 PM

I prefer this method:

What I do every time I get to this part of the game is I get out my Dragon Tooth Sword. Then I turn on my Regeneration augmentation, run out of the Osgood and Sons ruins, and just slaughter every thing that moves!!

Zaccheus

07-18-2003, 07:47 AM

Made it to the roof with the satellite dishes, jumped over the "alarm laser beam" and crawled to the stairs. From the stairs I threw a LAM at the generator below and then (receiving only minor injuries) just ran back up to the roof and on to the chopper.
Overheared my boss at his office (what a bad boy he is) and am now about to take a ride in the subway station's phone booth.

Zaccheus

07-19-2003, 10:18 AM

This time I used the gas grenades and then shot the terrorists.
I then used the computer terminal to cause the generator to self destruct.

[SYN] Nexus

07-19-2003, 01:36 PM

Good job man seems like you are doing great.So where are you now exactly still the dish?

Huntress

07-20-2003, 11:23 AM

Yea "Z", that's the way I suggested it could get done without a lot of hassle...some but that was the preferred method...using the comp :) Then the blow-up got some of them without you having to kill them! Then afterwards when they've been elimated you can go around searching for extra ammo, etc.

Yes, the phone booth trip is also calling for stealthyness...using the shadows to get from place to place and the overhead ramps to hide and eventually into the hut to elimate some of them before getting over to the Leader's room :) Then you can move safely over to the next area..which becomes very tricky. Getting deeper and deeper into your missions and more difficult strategy. ;)

Have you been to the train station yet where you get asked to help the Mole ppl open the water? Once you get the way opened...look for an overhead way to get over to it...and help the guy in the bathroom with zime. Then after you get it...do the supplier. Also, if you go upstairs...use boxes in advance to cover some quiet putouts to reduce numbers some, etc. They won't know what your doing until you start some action..Also one of the displays has some goods. Remember check everything as you go! Your going to need everything in good supply at sometime or other...so don't cut yourself short, situations might call for something you don't have yet or may not even want...but if you do your going to need supplies for it :) OH yea...the pepper gun, you can use it to help put sensors out of commission a bit while you scurry under...so it's another method without the need for those EMP's but it depends on what and where.

When you get to Hong Kong...let me know as I can give you some helpful tips in that area...your sniper and zapper will be useful when you get to someone's house eventually. Be very careful in there and look up afterwards for a way into a secret area! Same thing when you get on a boat ;) More to come whenever. Ta and Good Hunting!

Zaccheus

07-20-2003, 01:12 PM

LOL, thanks Huntress but I'm figuring it out for myself as I go along.
;)

As it happens, I did pretty much all that you suggested anyway.
:D

... and have just reached the sewers which seem to lead to the air field.

Upgrading my rifle skills to 'trained' has made a big difference.
And I unstalled the AUG as 'running silent'.
:)

Huntress

07-20-2003, 05:29 PM

OH noooo, you didn't do that for the rifle a long time ago??? You need to upgrade again soon!!! UNinstalled??? you must have done a save and reload, haha. No I never used that one at all!!! But at least get one for vision....useful when using rifle/scope etc. LOL Don't need binocks either, use scope on rifle for that ;) then with night vision...cool :)

Watch for Bots in airfield and use EMP's to put out camera from window you break and Bot same way...then get into tower(s) for goods as able, use crates on otherside of shack to get to and into trucks. Eliminate guards first nearby naturally and get stuff, etc. Look for ways up on some big crates/run and jump to some for stuff, but be careful...guards around/gas granades...move careful as always :)

Hope you don't mind what I'm telling...trying to just give some headsup without telling everything :) There's so much to this game and all the little things that can happen and need to be done...some things can be easly missed for one reason or another :D Ok, I'm done for now and always, Good Hunting!

Zaccheus

07-21-2003, 03:43 AM

I meant 'installed'.
:)

[SYN] Nexus

07-21-2003, 06:16 AM

Yea good job prepare for the real game now, from this moment in the game it will only get better

Huntress

07-23-2003, 02:40 PM

OH no "Z", you didn't need to waste that Aug for that ability...all you needed to do is to crouch and run just like Garrett and use your Cloak as needed...eyaahhh. I also installed the Aug (forgot the name now) but it's the one that boosts all of your Augs one point as you assign it to whichever one you want to boost at the time. That way you get an extra helper early on as you upgrade. Although costly for some, it's a big benefit overall IMHO. Some ppl preferred others but I think that one well worth it, especially for certain ones and leaves you open to assign your point to something else or increase one that you need to have better skills with :) You only have so many slots and so many upgrades...that you need to be very selective as you realize I'm sure by now ;)

And about Smuggler's place...you didn't tell me when you got there so I'd know when you give you his code for his secret hiding place...very very important and useful you open it up to get stuff!
You really missed out both times but may have another shot at getting there but each time is different things. I'll PM you the code, cause your my friend :) Ta and Good Hunting!

Le`Sauveur`De`Ces`Dames

07-23-2003, 11:54 PM

I preferred the aug that recycle your energy, so you don't have to use too many biocells. I didn't really need to have my augs one level higher

but like Huntress, I used the run faster/jump higher aug. (the first time I played, I used the run silent aug, but like Huntress said, just crouching and running has the same effect, except you run a little slower, so you have to calculate your timing more precisely)

Huntress

07-24-2003, 08:17 PM

Yes, I know that Aug for Recycle was used by many but I really didn't have any problem with getting needed Bio's...just used them wisely/bought some when I could, etc. As I said, using the Upgrade Aug came in very useful as it gave you an early edge for some of your Augs and added an extra third or fourth one later so you could use your points elsewhere as needed :) Especially for Cloak/Swimming/Haz suits/jumping/ and those things where you needed some extra help but not want to invest all your points but maybe one or two and then get the boost from that Aug. Cloak needs 4 but you can use only three and get the fourth from Aug...like that :) Very good advantages for you in the long run is my best advice over Reclycle Aug IMHO :) Ta and Good Hunting!

AlphaAssailant666

07-27-2003, 01:09 PM

Hey man when you get to Pauls favor mission read this spoiler or yoiu u can just read it now if you want.

When in the NSF base push or lift any boxes or tnt in front of the stairs so no one would be able to get up accept for you. After sending the distress call you will see why (although i assume u know what will happen) THIS IS SO HILARIOUS LOL!!!

Zaccheus

07-28-2003, 03:46 AM

I've just reached the inside of the hangar and am about to have a chat with my brother.
:)

Huntress

07-28-2003, 07:23 PM

Hi "Z", EDITED THIS PART. Just got reminded of where you are :) Hope you got rid of ANNA? I did but it was hard. Had to be done just right and with the right weaponry, etc. but it was for the best cause she was not a honorable person!!! :)

Just wondering, have you been to the "Cemetary" yet to see Dawd? Don't trust the gatekeeper! Be very very careful after you see Dawd...sometimes running can be a wiser choice (after a bit) :D

Also I have another very important clue for you but it's futher ahead yet. Let me know when you get to the area where you need to go down into sub-level water bldgs. It's really really important you do something first before you go into one of those underwater areas! You won't know it before and it can be a matter of life and death!!! Mainly death...yours if you don't prepare in advance ;) You'll have no second chance and if you don't it will be very very difficult for you and challenging enough otherwise when you do!

Continued Good Luck and Good Hunting! :)

Zaccheus

07-29-2003, 12:00 PM

cat in battery park (http://www.rcl-software.org.uk/deusex/screenshots/battery-park/)
:cool:

anna's death on the 747 (http://www.rcl-software.org.uk/deusex/screenshots/ny-747/)
:o

Huntress

07-29-2003, 05:12 PM

I'm lovin it "Z" :) Good job on Anna!!! tee hee
yea those cats are neat and so are the "dogs" to come...be on the alert later on when they do! :D Also, why are you carrying food packs in your belt? Not needed there...use for weapons. I also noticed you had a weapon modifier in your belt with cat...no no my friend, your belt space is very precious for more important things. I hope you slapped that puppy on your rifle? Another thing...remember I said you don't need binocks...I hope you have scope on rifle...cause that's enough for closeup looking around :) Space in belt and inventory gets very crowded with the items you need and eventually will have to make certain choices what to keep what to drop :( That was one part of this game that made your choices pretty hard at times, so use it very wisely :) Your health kits will be fairly available but store up on them as you find them...can only carry 30 I think and you'll need several at times. Those other food items are for small emergency uses but at times you won't even have room for them...only on a temp basis if you have some around where you are and can use right away. Also, wine will put a small glow on but beer and whiskey will take longer to wear off...so only use when your in a safe area. Ha ha and don't smoke or use drug! Drug will really mess you up, so only use to give it to a couple of ppl...one you've already met I think in bathroom. Only one time more when you'll need to have one. Heck of a game isn't it??? :) And you've got so far to go yet! LOL enjoy the trip as it's like no other and not sure how the new one will compare...especially the way they messed with the interface! I don't like it :( So it would be compatible with a consoles gamepad...BAH!!! Later and Good Hunting!

Zaccheus

07-29-2003, 11:55 PM

Yeah, I move my inventory stuff around quite a lot. Rest assured, the weapons mod didn't stay in the inventory for long.
;)

Le`Sauveur`De`Ces`Dames

07-30-2003, 03:09 AM

that's a good question : how do you usually organise your belt?

I personnally use :
1)prod
2)trank darts
3)baton (only for crates)
4)LAM
5)GEP (only for bots, but not very often)
6)medkits
7)biocells
8)multitools
9)lockpicks
0)nanokey (duh!)

Catman

07-30-2003, 05:10 AM

My standard belt:

1. Stealth Pistol (because I like staplers)
2. Crossbow (for nonlethal takedown)
3. Baton (my favorite nonlethal takedown weapon)
4. Sniper Rifle (for long range targets)
5. Assault Rifle (for groups)
6. Assault Shotgun (for bots using Sabot rounds)
7. GEP (univeral lockpick)
8. Multitools
9. Lockpicks
0. Nanokey (of course)

I try to keep things I might need on short notice, just in case one method of attack goes wrong.

Huntress

07-30-2003, 01:42 PM

Hmmm, I guess I would answer that question as for most commonly kept most of the time :D

Although I switch weapons around in order of 1st, 2nd, 3rd slots, etc. so I can have those things nearest to my left hand/finger choices so I don't have to hunt and peck in various key slots later.

But my choice of weaponry (which I've pretty much indicated earlier :) in no particular order now:

Prod; Crossbow; Sniper; Assault Rifle, Sawed-off; GEP; Dragon; Multipicks; Lockpicks at times; LAMS or Scramblers and other times Gas Granades; and Stealth Pistol. I also did a lot of drop and pickups later at various times to get more uses when needed of other types of weapons. However, the Alternate Use of GEP was very handy for multiple enemy's in particular, when you needed fast kills and the least amount of exposure of yourself, not just for Bots ;) Also used Shotgun but more for shooting out cameras and/or close-up Alien shots or those damn Spiders!!! Unless I could get them with other means, depending :D

But as I said, most important to me was putting what I needed most at the time in the first couple or three keys for fast access as needed :) Ta and Good Hunting!

lalaji

08-01-2003, 07:52 PM

Hello every1,
Just started playing Deus Ex.Am a shooting kind of guy,so am having a really hard time playing this game.Am still in the Liberty island and cant get to harley fabien.I try to be stealthy but it takes lot of time for the guards to come near and for me to attack them with the prod...and i keep getting nervous..almost everytime i died and cudnt even get to the other side..till the first enemy bot..he killed me twice..the guard near the enemy bot always notices me...wat shud i do?All u guys keep going deus ex is the greatest and stuff..but am having a hard time eventhough the game settings are in the "easy" mode..how do i play the game?Plz help.

Catman

08-01-2003, 08:56 PM

Remember what Alex tells you when you first go up the ramp: Use cover and stay out of their line of sight.

Beyond that:

It's possible to take down every NSF guy using just the baton by either watching their patrol routes carefully and timing your attack so you can sneak up from behind, or by using diversions to get them out of their normal routes.

Note that both gunfire and loud explosions will attract attention and can be used to your advantage. What with TNT and fuel drums so handy ...

Or, if you don't mind a large body count, get them to chase you and run like hell to one of the UNATCO bots. I wouldn't recommend this with the guy holding the sniper rifle, though.

If you get seriously injured, find one of the med bots — they're hidden in large crates, but I'll say no more save that you can find them by listening for their distinctive sound and by paying attention to what's in your line of sight.

Huntress

08-02-2003, 09:25 AM

Ahhummm :D If you don't mind another opinion I have this to offer ;) This game is made for steathyness with your given opportunities for combat. Since you don't want to raise your enemies awareness for this first mission in particular I would suggest getting the Crossbow from Paul. It's a great silent takedown and they won't know where it came from, as long as you are carefully hidden :) However, if you want for the first enemy anyway, is to use that strategy of luring him to where your friendly Bot patrols and they will get him for you. After that, as was said take your time, watch patrols, time your runs to get from place to place...get to UNATCO first then start sneaking around to take down enemies as they patrol nearby and use tranqs. When able run over to downed enemies for ammo or whatever's and quickly run back into hiding. Eventually you will come across that guard that has sniper rifle, which after you carefully ambush him, you can get! Upgrade this skill at least to trained early on...and mod it as you can, at first for accuracy later for distance :) Keep it throughout the game and upgrade consistenly..along with Vision Aug to at least one point to give you Night vision. Comboed with rife/scope/night vision and mods...will make you very deadly for many long distance/sniper shots :) You really don't need GEP till much later...but always take whatever ammo is available for storage and won't hurt your belt for carrying other items as it's not counted in. :) This game calls for a lot of searching and finding things so take your time...no need to rush for anything! Ta and Good Hunting!

lalaji

08-02-2003, 09:40 AM

The problem with crossbow is that if the target isnt exactly at the head,then you are easily located and they come after you in groups,also the guards near the enemy bot are hard for me to take down..as the bot keeps patrolling regularly..its very time consuming to go after the guards and wait to take them out,the first three-four guards are not a problem,but the guards near the bot and the guard that is present just after crossing the bot comes too near to be sneaked past..also is it necessary to take down every guard?I think i had to..

AlphaAssailant666

08-02-2003, 11:08 AM

It would have been much easier when you leave the docks to go right instead of straight becuase you wont have any bot to worry about. Personaly i have never gone the front way accpet for killing the first few gaurds for ammo ;)

Zaccheus

08-03-2003, 01:25 PM

I made it all the way back to Battery Park!
Sadly, I'm now a prisoner of MJ12.
:o

More screenshots for you:

20th street warehouse (http://www.rcl-software.org.uk/deusex/screenshots/20th-street-warehouse/)

Battery Park (http://www.rcl-software.org.uk/deusex/screenshots/battery-park/)

Huntress

08-04-2003, 07:26 PM

Yea...the "Escape" and it's a toughie! Timing critical and hope you found other cells for help :) Getting to Battery Park is one way of doing it (helping Paul) but unfortuately doing it that way, he dies :( If you'd of left by the window..you could eventually save him for a little different result of gameplay in your game :) Either way you end up where you are...and as you might have found out, you can't kill Gunther yet. He has a part to play still! Just remember in awhile to ask Jamie to stay and he will do something for you later on that's a nice helper re: Gunther! :D

Why are you still carrying binoc's? You don't really need them "Z" and taking valuable space for other things you need in your belt and/or inventory ;) Believe me, your going to need all the space you can manage for other more important stuff!

As far as Warehouse...why in the world were you up in those places anyway? Just to see if you could??? That dropping down to light fixture idea came in handy for me in one particular place when I needed to get down from a rooftop, I also used that tactic :) That was of course after I had tranq'd some dogs and took care of some guards around that area before I could get down and over to the other side and take care of guards there, etc. then I made my way inside through a door that was left open for me later :D That was a slightly different mission but a Warehouse caper. I don't think you found dogs in the pic's your showing, is that right or wrong? I can't remember for sure right now.

Anyway...stay well and stay low ;) Ta and Good Hunting!

Le`Sauveur`De`Ces`Dames

08-05-2003, 02:05 AM

I'm not far from thinking he went up there to send a message to the NSF, like his brother asked him? (don't you think so?)

and I agree for the binocular, the scope on any of your weapon (ie GEP, sniper rifle, crossbow, pistol, at least) can be used as a binocular, and at the same time take less space

Zaccheus

08-05-2003, 04:03 AM

Yep, I went up to the roof to send the message (collecting supplies on the way), and then the UNATCO troops started shooting at me, so I didn't want to fight my way all the way back down.
:)

BTW, my inventory is nice and empty now.
;)

Le`Sauveur`De`Ces`Dames

08-05-2003, 07:09 AM

not for long, hopefully.

everythig you possessed is in the armory, on your left when you leave the prison . all you need is to find the room from where you can control bots and find the code for the computer to get a nice new weapon. (not the best, but always fun)

lalaji

08-06-2003, 08:34 PM

i will be using cheats,can any1 tell wat god-mode does?and the invisible cheat doesnt make me invisible,wat can i do?plz suggest some more good chetas,wat abt the fly mode?how is that useful,plz help.

Le`Sauveur`De`Ces`Dames

08-06-2003, 11:42 PM

usually, in such games, god-mode makes you invulnerable

Catman

08-07-2003, 05:06 AM

There's a link to a list of cheats in the Technical Problems FAQ in this forum. You can also check out the other Deus Ex websites listed in the Game Play Problems FAQ.

Zaccheus

08-07-2003, 11:48 AM

I've cleared out the armory and the bot-repair area, and am now in the tunnels under the floor.
:)

lalaji

08-08-2003, 11:18 PM

made it to harley filben(without cheats..)oh...am tired..how do i open the goodies in the sunken boat below i dint find anything in the hole below,after lockpicking the closed small door.

AlphaAssailant666

08-09-2003, 08:47 AM

Use a knife, crowbar, or baton to break the crates...

Zaccheus

08-10-2003, 10:48 AM

This is one cool game.

I KO'd my ex-boss, and then carried him to the chopper.

Now the three of us are in Hong Kong.
:)

Catman

08-10-2003, 12:04 PM

Be sure and leave him with Tracer Tong for "rehabilitation." ;)

Huntress

08-12-2003, 07:41 PM

Hey "Z"...catching up on your travels as I've been playing "Pharoah" again..or rather still finishing it :) Had a power out earlier and when I got home found the computer had reset itself with my game on pause :( So decided to get on for a bit and catchup on my emails as well.

So I too am surprised about your ability to take Manderley to HK??? I never thought that was possible either...I just shot him! LOL I also agree about map in HK as I said earlier...lots of things and places to go and do/find. Swim a lot and dive! If you do it right in a certain area, you'll get a preview of a new creature you'll be running into...this is where the "Sword" and your skills will come in very useful...as well as the breathers you can find :) Head off to the right from entry and don't use breather until your almost out of breath..then use to get the rest of the way and back as the items are in a tricky area that you'll want to find :)

As far as the signal at Warehouse...you got there and down in a very different way and in some areas I had not thought about going :D I know you like heights :D

When you went to retrieve your weapons, did you find the ladder to climb up and turn off the gas valve and climb over those pipes to find hatch to drop down into the area of where your weapons were or did you get there another way? I never did use that "Special" weapon in case. I didn't care for it and there were other items I wanted more ;) I hope you also discovered that there were weapons like yours but you had to check them to make sure they were really yours first..then you could add others and/or regular ammo to fill up. I found that if I used a regular weapon and then put my real weapon over it...it would not be upgraded to my original weaponry! Not sure why but that's what happened?

Now I'm curious, what happens to Manderley in HK? Does he play some other part in the story doing it that way? What the heck ever make you think of doing that with him? And what was Jock's response to that? Wow, that's a whole different direction I never knew was possible, LOL Ta and Good Hunting!!

Zaccheus

08-13-2003, 03:55 AM

Retrieving my weapons:
Out of the cell block, turned right twice, ran through the robot repair area and hid in the corridor connecting the robot repair area and the armory.
Then I went back to the robot repair area, snatched the multi-tool, and got into the armory.

I didn't want to kill Manderley, so I knocked him out.
Then I thought, "I can't just leave him here to wake up and come after me", so I carried him to the chopper.
Still carrying him, I clicked on the chopper and the cut-scene started. When the game continued in HK, I was still carrying him!
I'll try to make a screenshot of him lying in front of tracer tong, when I finally meet him.
:)

Catman

08-13-2003, 05:26 AM

When you leave Hong Kong, make sure you take Louis Pan with you. I often take him with me around the world so I can leave him with Gary Savage in Vandenberg (on the theory that the little snot needs a strong father figure).

Le`Sauveur`De`Ces`Dames

08-13-2003, 05:50 AM

do you prod him, or do you hit him with the baton directly?

Huntress

08-13-2003, 04:36 PM

Well for cryin out loud :D You ppl have told me some things I had no ideas of! Take that little piece of snot too? Ha ha, I wanted to do something about him but didn't know what, so I let him be. I thought he was too much trouble to worry about when I was trying to do other things there :) There were also too many ppl wandering around for me to try and knock him out, etc. and then not knowing what to do with him after. :( Where could you hide him and not be seen by someone when carrying hin around? LOL
Although I guess you could have stuck him in the Police Station after you did your business there? How could you think of taking him to Vandenberg? When you get dropped off on the roof, the way I got down was to drop off that one side where that other door was down below and once doing that, you weren't able to get back up to the roof as I recall? So what would you do with him then? How would you get him down with you? Going down the stairs would have been much more dangerous to get to the places you needed to go and so I think that would have been your only choice if you were to get him to Salvage later? Consequently, he would have hampered my activities and not important enough for me to have wanted to try that one ;) But taking Manderley to HK...that was a heck of an idea! :D But there again, having to deal with all the soldiers while trying to get the rest of the way out of there would again have been a lot of trouble to pick him up and put him down so many times when you've also got limited time to get through that door when the security guy comes out after you??? That's really taking a lot of extra chances of getting hurt, etc. while making your escape I think? But I sure give you all credit for getting it done! LOL

Will be looking for those screens...Ta and Good Hunting!

Catman

08-14-2003, 07:13 AM

Yes, taking Louis Pan along is a bit of a chore. You need to drop him in a safe place each time you move to a new map. The hard part is making sure you don't leave him in the exact spot where Jock will land (not that there's any danger to Mr. Pan, but you can't pick him up if the helicopter is hovering over him), and making sure you leave him in a place you can retrieve him from before you leave the level.

Yes, I'm weird.

goody

08-15-2003, 08:12 AM

I took manderley to Hong Kong and left him with tracer tong. I was disappointed that it made no difference to the game though

In the Lucky Money Club , Zaccheus, on the first floor up there is a triad member guarding a flight of stairs going down. Go down there and there is the lady on the door and a guard with a gep gun, both friendly. Take them down for GEP ammmo and multiple credits . Also a safe down their too, :-) enjoy!!!

Jovena

08-17-2003, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Skylink
you're playing kinda slow imo :)

Think he's just enjoying the game. I wish I had taken time to really savor the game the first time I played it. But I was too impatient and was always rushing to see what was around the next corner!

Zaccheus

08-17-2003, 12:35 PM

Screenshot (http://www.rcl-software.org.uk/deusex/screenshots/hk-market/)
:D

Huntress

08-17-2003, 07:48 PM

LOL, that Manderley...drunken bum...had one too many at the Lucky Money I see :D Oh man "Z"...why the Shotgun??? The Sawed-off is a much better weapon and doesn't take as much room in your inventory...plus you get an important Alt Ammo for it!

And no Assualt Rifle either??? Your going to need a fast repeating weapon my friend.. :eek: :D Even though you can do much damage with GEP..at times it won't work because of limited close quarter fights...and Shotgun too noisey ;) With Assualt you can put a silencer on it :) Oh what your going to find in HK areas, LOL Good Luck and Good Hunting!

goody

08-19-2003, 11:19 AM

I prefer the original pistol, ive stuck a laser sight and scope on it. The stealth pistol doesnt have enough stoppng power for me. If i want to be silent i use the crossow

Bio Denton

08-20-2003, 02:35 AM

I hate Louis Pan almost as much as Maggie Chow. I just put a LAM by the flower shop. I would have brought him to Area-51 and used him as a shield, but there were too many bits.

Huntress

08-21-2003, 11:28 AM

Well goody, it just depends on which "silent" way you need to get rid of your enemies :D With the proper skills and mods you put on Stealth, it's very deadly ;) But that's why we have a choice of weaponry, skills, augs...to play it the way you want with many avenues to go! That's what made it a "great" game IMHO and only hope IW will match up without losing too much of it's play due to Console considerations...??? This really bothers me cause any console port to PC has been a big let-down in several other demos I've tried and consequently have never bought! Keeping fingers crossed, I hope this doesn't end the same way :( Ta and Good Hunting!

goody

08-23-2003, 09:21 AM

Of course, the advantage of the stealth pistol is it looks DAMN cool.
Anyone else here love throwing knives?

Bio Denton

08-24-2003, 07:04 AM

Throwing knives + Targetting Aug = 0wnage

The only problem is, you can only find about 50-60 of them.

Zaccheus

08-26-2003, 11:49 AM

Screenshots (http://www.rcl-software.org.uk/deusex/screenshots/hong-kong/)

No reaction from Tracer Tong.

Huntress

08-27-2003, 03:53 PM

LOL, no wonder no reaction from TT :D When your lying on your
butt all the time, I wouldn't pay any attention to you either! :D

By the way, I don't see Cloak in your Aug's? You haven't found it yet??? Maybe it hasn't been available so far...can't remember when I got it but should be soon? Your really going to need that one!!! Just some places you can't get past without it...and/or hiding from some enemies but still can be detected by others...since you meet more warm blooded types rather than electronic types that you can get rid of one way or another or avoided...I chose Cloak ;) Really helps you to get from one place to another, etc. But those Commandos/MIB's/WIB's are a different matter as well as certain main enemies! When did you investigate the wrecked/flooded station in HK? If you go there first thing, you can see a fight between the two factions :D If you go late, you miss the fight and only see the remains of it. Different results at times as to who wins ;) Don't worry about barge...stuff there but very dangerous and not that important...but china boat is :) Make sure to check out all the cold lockers around...lots of good ammo/weapons and knock out some ppl on street and club (girl..you'll get extra lockpicks) etc. if you haven't done that already. Hope you found goodies on both ends of flooded station? And how did you like "Man's" best friend? LOL They are mean and you'll meet more later plus some new friends :D This game is addicting isn't it? Talk about Thief being addictive..heh heh! Just a little more, just a little more! Ta and Good Hunting!

Catman

08-28-2003, 04:30 AM

If you search everywhere, you should be able to have all the augs installed by the time you're ready to leave Hong Kong. However, if you miss a few, there are opportunities to pick some up later.

Zaccheus

08-31-2003, 06:22 AM

More Screenshots (http://www.rcl-software.org.uk/deusex/screenshots/hong-kong/)

I got the AUGs and uploaded the code. Got out without injury!

There is now peace between the Triads.

:)

Bio Denton

09-02-2003, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Zaccheus
Screenshot (http://www.rcl-software.org.uk/deusex/screenshots/hk-market/)
:D

Someone please take a screenshot of this:

Manderley on top of The Lucky Money bar, with a drink in his hand.

Zaccheus

09-05-2003, 03:23 AM

Hong Kong revisited:
Manderley in the Lucky Money with a bottle in his hand! (http://www.rcl-software.org.uk/deusex/screenshots/hong-kong/)

Fun with the sword:
NY - Navy Base (http://www.rcl-software.org.uk/deusex/screenshots/new-york-2/)

Catman

09-05-2003, 04:41 AM

Of course, that door can be opened by hacking the security computer. ;)

Zaccheus

09-05-2003, 05:02 AM

Maybe, but there are others ...
:D

Huntress

09-05-2003, 05:52 PM

Hi "Z"...funny funny pic with Manderley and bottle! :D Been playing and finally finished all of Pharoah last night...boy those last two levels were hard and took forever cause of all the Monuments you had to build plus all the ppl you had to try and keep happy, etc.

I see your moving right along and yes "that sword" is terrific as I indicated early on. Not only can it open some doors, but if it's strong enough...(skill lvl, etc.) it can do turrets too eventually, cameras if you can reach them...buy why carry a knife when you can use sword? Not needed and takes valuable space. See you finally got Assault but should have had it much earlier for upgrading purposes ;) Also have Cloak now too...great! Some of those icons I don't recognize as I didn't use them but maybe they changed some of the looks in the patch? I've never patched my game as I want/need the two bugs that were in there, LOL They took them out in the patch plus I don't play multiplayer and that was part of the patch as well. Heh, so you also did a little sword fighting with that MIB huh...never tried that either as I'm not a good sword fighter anyway! Just ask Garrett, LOL

Well Brooklyn Navy Yard appears to be next on your menue...have fun with the ship :D You'll find lots of ammo around to do the job...just be sure to setup the first area you get into and start in the farthest part when ready...and use crates/boxes around pump area to setup first and then you can just get up to top of pipes to shoot it and then get out quickly from there as that will be the last one to do. Crane is neat in both areas for getting to places...just don't look down, LOL j/k'g also a great sniping point can be found overlooking pier area ;) Well that's my tip of the day and probably you can get this figured out yourself...just wanted to make sure you did :D Also here are to be found several entry points..find them all and you get credit for each one (exploring bonus)! Ta and Good Hunting!

Bio Denton

09-08-2003, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by Zaccheus
Hong Kong revisited:
Manderley in the Lucky Money with a bottle in his hand! (http://www.rcl-software.org.uk/deusex/screenshots/hong-kong/)

Fun with the sword:
NY - Navy Base (http://www.rcl-software.org.uk/deusex/screenshots/new-york-2/)

Thanks :P

Huntress

09-18-2003, 04:59 PM

Hey Zaccheus...where are you??? Did you get lost in Paris or what, LOL Wondering how your doing and waiting to see more pics too :) Ta and Good Hunting!

Zaccheus

09-21-2003, 03:00 AM

For the second time now, a saved game has been corupted so I can't get back to a previous location.

I had blasted the ship, but when I try to get back onto the roof of the building, the game crashes at a location transition.

As I really don't feel like doing the whole ship thing again right now, I'm taking a break and might have another go later in the year.

EDIT:
Here are the latest screenshots:
Onto the ship! (http://www.rcl-software.org.uk/deusex/screenshots/new-york-2/)

Huntress

09-21-2003, 05:00 PM

Oh Zaccheus..I'm so sorry to see that your game is having problems...I don't understand it though...never had any kind of problem with mine. I can't believe that both a hard save and/or a QS would both be corrupted???? Did you try doing that along the way as well...being an experienced player I would think you would have done both types to make sure you had a good backup save so you wouldn't have to go too far back to recover. Damn..that's the pits! I sure hope you do get back to it soon though as you were doing so well and enjoying it too!

Glad to see the new pics though and yes that ship was a biggie and made really well. That platform where you got that plank to walk across is where I used to shoot Commandos down on the pier...then that gave me access to entries below and into recreation room for some conversation and tips as well as vending machines, etc. Also further down on pier in one of the side areas is a frobable hatch which you can get down in for a little looksee but actually was another way in, so when you climb out again you get credit for another exploration and then you get the code for the ramp from one of the workmen, so when you use that to lower it..exploration...as well as swimming around ship to find ladder to get up for exploration, etc. :) And there's stuff up and on those large crates as well...which I would think you would have checked out and then climbing up on that crane is another way in over into ship as I recall? Anyway, I can only suggest saving both ways in case one doesn't decide to work for some strange reason you could recover most of it and just make sure to do it often...maybe it's just this one area since the rest has been working OK? I don't really have any other ideas and don't think you'd want to reinstall the whole thing either to restart from the whole beginning...at least not yet :D

Maybe someone else reading this thread might have an idea for ya? Hope so :) Keep in touch and let me know how your doing. You can always PM me too of course. Ta and Good Hunting!

[WZ]divine

09-22-2003, 01:40 AM

its good to hear all of you seem to hate Mandely, Louis Pan, and Maggie chow.
- I dont feel so bad about what i did to them now

Mandely:
all ill say is he will never be having children now

Louis Pan
I gave him a nasty ordeal - consisting of 4 gas grenades, 3 fire extinguishers (id been saving them up) and a whole pepper gun.
- by the end of it he was still threatening me so i beat him unconcious and chucked him in the canal.

Maggie Chow
I shot out the windows around where she stands in her apartment and managed to push her out so she landed on the street below. - to my amazement she survived???
- PS. can anyone throw Maggie Chow into Jocks appartment (you can jump to it from her one) Ive tried with my speed/jump aug but fall just short (she is far to fat)

I love Hong Kong - Its fun trying to kill everyone in the market square without anyone realising.

Zaccheus

09-22-2003, 01:01 PM

Lytha replied on TTLG that she got a corrupt save when she jumped into the water after the ship started sinking.

As I always did that, it might be the cause for the corruption.

I had plenty of saved games, but the last non-corrupted one I could find is when I first enter the 'lower decks' area of the ship.

Not too bad, really, but I'll give it break for now and play some Thief for a while.
:)

Huntress

09-22-2003, 02:26 PM

LOL, you jumped ship..into water :D I went down the plank, then over to the way out. That'll teach ya to go swimming into water where a ship was blowing up and supposedly sinking! You never do get to see it blow up entirely however :( Too bad...that would have been a neat scene! Well I hope when you do get back to it...it will work out for you ;) Keep me posted so I'll know when you get back to it again...ok? Ta and Good Hunting!

Catman

09-23-2003, 04:45 AM

I've jumped into the water without problems, but like as not it's a system-dependent error. Still, it does not surprise me -- the naval yard/wall cloud levels are perhaps the buggiest in the game, and I've had corrupt saves in other areas.

I always make sure I have a menu-save before I leave Hell's Kitchen to ensure I won't have to go back too far in case something weird happens.

-=ThøR=-

10-19-2003, 04:24 AM

who's this Lousi Pan everyone is talking about. I really can't remember him

Centauro

10-20-2003, 12:20 AM

I know the Dragon Head!

that tells you something. That little walking annoyance is hard to forget.

Le`Sauveur`De`Ces`Dames

10-20-2003, 03:36 AM

"Requiescat In Pace"

Hic Jacet Luis Pan, who knew the dragon head and lost his head to the dragon tooth...

auric

10-22-2003, 09:43 PM

Dragon Head, Shmagon Head

So what if he knows him, I help save him & the triads. He owe me big.

lol :D

Zaccheus

03-01-2004, 04:26 AM

I'm back ! (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=981683#post981683)

Started playing last night from the lastes saved game I could find - which was Hong Kong.

Le`Sauveur`De`Ces`Dames

03-01-2004, 05:29 AM

the good thing is, it will take you less time to re-do what you already did, and thus give you more time to explore the parts you missed last time you played

Zaccheus

03-05-2004, 05:18 PM

Sunk the ship - at last !

Now I'm in Paris.
:)

brangdon

03-07-2004, 04:36 PM

I've just got below decks, so I'll be catching you up soon. I'm playing in FPS mode, with assault shotgun, assault rifle and sniper rifle as my main tools. I have "mastered" those, but I have found I don't need any other skills.

This is a fun way to play. My previous game was fairly austere. I tried to avoid hurting anyone - not just not killing, but not knocking anyone unconcious either. No tranq darts or riot prods. Going in shooting is a relaxing antidote to that.

Le`Sauveur`De`Ces`Dames

03-08-2004, 12:14 AM

I tried something, recently:

I took a dice, a decided to roll it for each new mission.
1 is totally non lethal, no inconscious, etc.
2 is non lethal, but I can knock people out, and use tranq darts
3 is "stick to the objective" : it depends on what was asked (EG in mission 1, I don't kill the leader. in the warehouse mission, I "go in like the US marshall"). if two goals are in opposition, I re-roll the dice
4 is lethal : all red target must be dead at the end of the mission
5 is berserk : all target, including civilians, rats, kids, birds, etc must be dead at the end. (even if it means freeing the hostages before killing them)
6 as I had no idea for this one, I decided to roll another dice and use only the weapon corresponding to the result. (1 - prod, 2 - crossbow, 3 - pistol, 4 - sniper rifle, 5 - GEP Gun, 6 - knife/sword/DTS (depends on the level))

adds a little fun to the game