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06-20-2003, 01:45 PM
Is Eidos trying to pull a "From Justin to Kelly" with not letting people review it until after people spent money for it? Guess they didn't want the media to warn anyone about the slow-downs.....
PO'ing what few friends in the media Lara has left isn't the brightest idea.
Lara Croft Online
06-20-2003, 02:23 PM
So far I experienced a slowdown on the roof of the 1st level.
I didn't feel it was a problem. I felt it was kind of preparation
for what was coming next. Not a major fault in my opinion so far.
06-20-2003, 03:04 PM
Thats weird LCO cause I just posted somewhere else that i experienced some slow down at the top of the building in the first level. I'm glad it wasn't just my game.
06-21-2003, 04:40 PM
Yes, it is clearly against the US Constitution what EIdos is doing. As you may know, Eidos prohibited reviewing AoD until next Thursday. Now, that's funny. If someone decided to review Aod before Thursday, there isn't a damned thing Eidos can do cuz the law is on the reviewer's side... Ever heard of the freedom of the press and speech? That's what Eidos is violating...
06-21-2003, 05:02 PM
Unfortunately, most of the sites (the major ones anyway) will probably accomodate Eidos's request since its pretty clear that quite a few of these sites have received some pretty good ad revenues in connection with the TRAOD release, let alone other Eidos releases.
Hopefully we will get some early reviews from some rebel "we-don't-give-a-fxxk-what-you-want-Eidos" review sites though!
P.S. Personally I can't believe that it would make all that much difference unless Eidos believes that the PC buyer is a more discriminating buyer than the PS2 buyer (which I suppose could have validity at some level). But the fact remains that the TR franchise has this humongous mystical base of customers who will buy this game even if it is total crap. I'm certainly not aware of any other game franchise that has such a huge forgiving and uncritical fan base.
06-21-2003, 05:06 PM
The fact is, Eidos's request is still against the law, Both US (The Constitution) and British (the bill of rights), so it's even for the benifit of the sites to post early reviews. The sites would be in a spotlight for sticking and upholding the law and being considered a noble site, thus increasing popularity and rising the good reputation of the site.
06-21-2003, 05:24 PM
But I think that it's only against the constitution if in fact Eidos has or can "restrict" the publication of an early review which they (1) probably can't and (2) it probably couldn't be proven anyway. The fact that a review site may or may not accomodate this request probably prevents it from being a winnable "free speech" case.
But then again, I'm not a constitutional expert. I'm pretty confidnet we'll get some early ratings leakage, and if not so I'll wait a week longer before buying. Heck some of the most reliable reviews, or at least pros and cons will come out in this forum from the everyday fans who are not biased by their employer's ad revenue relationship with Eidos.
06-21-2003, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Frugo_PL
Yes, it is clearly against the US Constitution what EIdos is doing. As you may know, Eidos prohibited reviewing AoD until next Thursday.
Just where did you hear/read this????
Once the game is in the publics hands, doesn't seem like there's anything Eidos can do legally about people posting reviews about AoD.
06-21-2003, 06:09 PM
TAke a look here. (http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?threadid=17892)
Secrets Of Nosgoth
06-21-2003, 08:05 PM
If anything telling people not to review it should be a giant warning sign for the public saying we shouldn't buy it. Are they affraid of bad reviews or something? If so that really annoys me that they are willing to release a game that they know ahead of time that there are things wrong with it.
I already preordered mine and can't wait to play it so regardless of the bad reviews, I'm sure I'll like it from the great previews it got. Bad move on Eidos' behalf if you ask me.
06-22-2003, 11:40 AM
Ok, so you are saying that Eidos can prohibit the press and internet news sites from reviewing Aod? I think that it's common sense that it's not going along with the law. Anyway, the US constitution does state freedom of the press, so the freedom of the press case would be probably won for the review. What's the next step? Maybe controling what the reviewer writes? Anyone that knows anything about law and uses common sense will agree that Eidos can't prohibit the reviewing Aod. :o Maybe Eidos could do that in USSR, but these days are long over...
06-22-2003, 11:57 AM
Fine, maybe I am wrong, but answer this - can a corporation prohibit the press about writting reviews about their products? As far as I know, I don't think so.
Food for thought, Frugo. ;)
As it turns out, we were wrong to believe that all online game sites were asked to hold reviews of Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness until July 26. In fact, it's just us, Gamers.com, for reasons which remain difficult to puzzle out. However, that only applies to the guys in this office....
06-22-2003, 03:46 PM
So why are you giving gamers.com attitude with reviewing it? They do publish EGM and OPM, which are probably the two biggest supporters you need in magazine form for TR:AOD. Did they poop in someone at Eidos's litter box and get them all mad? Did someone there sleep with your woman? Did they streak the camera and show their backsides while Eidos was filming that documentary preview to look all dark and cool?
06-22-2003, 04:13 PM
And what was all of that fuss all about... :o
06-22-2003, 04:21 PM
Excuse me if i'm wrong, but i think that someone here mentioned that Eidos asked the sites e.t.c. no to review till Thursday. My guess is that they are waiting for the PAL version to come out. They are probably afraid that bad reviews could damage sales at Europe and in the US, so they thought "let's release the game here first make some fast money and by the time it gets on Europe we'll have a headstart over the bad press and even if it costs us sales the cost will not be that big as if the bad press existed for both the PAL and NTSC vesrions". I mean think if the PAL comes out indeed this Friday then they will easily cash in on fanatics during the first weekend before the bad press gets them and discourages them. Of course i totaly disagree with their demand and i think that they simply show no respect to the consumer as they did with not announcing a release date till the elleventh hour. Let's fool ourselves though, most people will buy it (like me) even if it gets bad reviews. The same happened with Enter The Matrix, it either got bad or mediocre reviews and yet it sold 2.5 million copies and counting...
06-22-2003, 05:32 PM
Enter the Matrix wasn't bad, but it got bad reviews and people are complaining
06-22-2003, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Ringwraith6
but i think that someone here mentioned that Eidos asked the sites e.t.c. no to review till Thursday.
And obviously those persons were wrong.
06-22-2003, 11:07 PM
And obviously those persons were wrong.
or maybe they weren't wrong. maybe they are simply from a paralell universe where this fact exists to be truth and the internet article existed on their internet but some how jumped the gap from their universe to ours and lodged itself on the same web address as it had existed in their universe...or maybe they were just wrong. but think about it.
06-22-2003, 11:41 PM
You do have a point ...
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