2 tmotaly dif. AOD movies.. TOTALY bad camera!

[total_inferno]

scince no one cares about my other post in some thread here is a new one..

2 TOTALY new vids from gamespot.. requested by me :D.. yup thoose guys at gamespot have listend to the little guys..

btw.. they are dissapointing ..camera sucks.. say what you want.. it is BAD ..

well here thet are gamespot vids AOD ... blaabllaa blaa clickz here.. mmm.. food.. oopss.. ok just click.. (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/tombraidertheangelod/media.html)

EDIT :apperantly only gamespot complete members can see tht ... sorry guys...

[XanderD2]

Originally posted by total_inferno
scince no one cares about my other post in some thread here is a new one..

2 TOTALY new vids from gamespot.. requested by me :D.. yup thoose guys at gamespot have listend to the little guys..

btw.. they are dissapointing ..camera sucks.. say what you want.. it is BAD ..

well here thet are gamespot vids AOD ... blaabllaa blaa clickz here.. mmm.. food.. oopss.. ok just click.. (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/tombraidertheangelod/media.html)

Do you have another link? I'm not willing to sign up just to get two frigging game vids. (Call me a cheapskate but I'd rather spend my money on a game from the bargain bin instead.)

[total_inferno]

I personaly requested thoose vids from gamespot they had them up about a few hours after.. one they stole from IGN.. the other 2 are never before seen... I will look in on that one for you but scince gamespot took the vids I highly doubt they will be around anytime soon:(

[XanderD2]

Originally posted by total_inferno
I will look in on that one for you but scince gamespot took the vids I highly doubt they will be around anytime soon:(

Well, thanks anyway.

Is the camera really that bad?

[total_inferno]

well... in one part you see her go through an opening and there is wired cage behined her.. which blocks the whole view and then bam a guy appears.. you wouldn't be prepared for this scince the camrea sucked.. and you can tell when jeff was moving lara he sorta waited for the camera angle to change so he can see what's in front of lara not behind her...

was just watching E3 live.. the first thing gs guy talked about he was standing rightatthe eidos booth and there was a clip behind him (cutscene) of lara and kurtis doing something.. I'm not sure what and then a really odd seen of either lara shooting fire coming out of her hands or lara geting fire shot at her...

anyways back to the video I was talking about one more thing which I should point out lara killed a guy in 1 shot without being hit at all.. just bam! he's dead.. *dumb A.I.*

hopefuly all this will be worked out in the final version the camera and A.I. .... :(

[Eckhardt]

[i]was just watching E3 live.. the first thing gs guy talked about he was standing rightatthe eidos booth and there was a clip behind him (cutscene) of lara and kurtis doing something.. I'm not sure what and then a really odd seen of either lara shooting fire coming out of her hands or lara geting fire shot at her...[/B]

Fire being shot at her. I read she nearly dies (by fire) when she meets Kurtis (Curtis, whatever), guess a criminal's on the loose

[XanderD2]

Now that we know that the release date is June 27 and not June 20 let's hope that they will spend that extra week by fixing the damn camera and the AI.

[total_inferno]

Originally posted by Eckhardt
Fire being shot at her. I read she nearly dies (by fire) when she meets Kurtis (Curtis, whatever), guess a criminal's on the loose

that is basicly what I saw it was a quick glimpse and it was live so I guess you explained it preaty well

http://forums.eidosgames.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[snark^]

They'll probably be hosted elsewhere gefore long: Gamespot had 9 'exclusive' video clips of half-life 2 in action at E3 and within 30 min of them being made available to the public on their pay site they could be found all over the net in various nooks and crannies... :D

That last video prior to E3, the one with Lara looking for a respirator in a gas-filled building, also saw her take a be-gasmasked goon down in a quick burst of fire. So thankfully it sounds like they've removed the endless-hail-of-lead approach to the combat. It's a good thing. :)

[total_inferno]

no not reallly A.I. is dumb... he just died there in like 1 shot.. although in the past tombraiders enimies were a bit too... POWERFUL... but still this enemy A.I. just stinks IMHO and only IMHO

[XanderD2]

Personally, I would not be upset if they delayed the game until Cradle of Life debuts in the theaters.

[redwinger]

Originally slated for a release this past November, Angel of Darkness was pushed back until early 2003 for re-tooling. Now it looks as if the game will be ready within the month. Rumor has it that the controls weren’t up to scratch, that the camera proved to be problematic, and that Lara keep falling out of her top. Core has promised to tighten things all around, so hopefully when it hit store shelves fans will welcome Lara back with open wallets. from UGO

The camera problem must be really bad..

[badgal]

This is also an E3 review for AOD regarding camera problems.

GameSpot-

Graphically, the models and environments look just fine, but the game currently has some pretty serious camera problems, which occasionally prevent you from seeing the action at all. Also, the game's graphics are really quite jagged, giving the game the look of a much earlier PlayStation 2 game in some spots. Hopefully both of these problems will be worked out before the game is released.

[redwinger]

Btw, heres the links to watch the AoD Footage 1 & 2 from IGN.com as mentioned by total_inferno::

May 14 2003
http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?channel_id=59&object_id=479904&adtag=network=ign&site=pchub&pagetype=medialist&page_title=Tomb+Raider%3A+The+Angel+of+Darkness

[badgal]

Originally posted by redwinger
Btw, heres the links to watch the AoD Footage 1 & 2 from IGN.com as mentioned by total_inferno::

May 14 2003
http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?channel_id=59&object_id=479904&adtag=network=ign&site=pchub&pagetype=medialist&page_title=Tomb+Raider%3A+The+Angel+of+Darkness

But i dont think those were the ones total_inferno was talking about, was it ?

[Ethereal]

Actually I don't feel that worried about the camera. You have to steer the camera on the PC yourself. So I think the laggy camera is only an issue on the ps2. On the PC it's your own responsibillity how you steer the camera I believe. If you steer not good, you can create an iritating perspective for yourself.

[XanderD2]

I HOPE that I won't have to steer the camera myself. I prefer the ass-cam that always snaps behind Lara. No more Empirical Indy controls, PLEEEAAASSEEEE!!!

[LaraAngelOfDarkness]

The camera is not that BAD! Get over it if your not getting the PS2 version then don't worry about PS2 movies of the game. Controlling the camera isn't that hard on PS2, you just use the right thumb stick. Plus I swear Core said that you can pick the camera you want. And about the A.I. complaints, If I shot you with a machine gun you would fall pretty quick too. Now since Lara is the main character its alright that she gets shot millions of times and doesn't die(not that anyone complained about lara being shot).

[total_inferno]

Originally posted by badgal
But i dont think those were the ones total_inferno was talking about, was it ?

nope I was talking about two "tmotaly:p" dif. videos.. and the ign ones are at gamespot.. bad that is not what i was talking about... still after watching the e3 trailer... with the sound up all I can say is cool music :cool:

[snark^]

Just remember that what made the camera suck in Empirical Indy was its combination with the controls -- press left and Indy ran to the left of the screen, press back and he ran towards the camera, etc. All of which meant that if you ran him forward while turning the camera around he would move in a circle -- the camera could affect the movement, resulting in a lot of mistakes and often (in my case at least) oodles of frustration over losing the opponents.

TRAOD's controls are still the familiar run forward, hop back, turn left/right mode which means the camera's angle/movement won't matter regards Lara's movment. We can revolve the view to our black little heart's content and she won't be doing anything stupid. plus it appears it will snap back to the asscam when not in use.