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RebeL_fARmeR
03-24-2003, 05:05 AM
I've got to ask this, it seems that Lara (the original good ol' Lara Croft) is being overpowered by Angelina Jolie. Take for example the way that a "Tomb Raider action figure" is usually referring to a figure of Jolie and not Lara.

MAKE A CHOICE, who do you PERSONALLY like more, Lara or Jolie?

Me: LARA LARA LARA LARA LARA!
(by the way, incase you can't see it there's a very small poll box hiding at the top of the page) Place yer bets now!

RebeL_fARmeR
03-24-2003, 05:26 AM
Oop! Hold on... what's gone wrong with my poll? Something's gone BADLY wrong with it! :( No vote buttons? HELP!

Oh, doesn't matter, my mistake.

DaveJ
03-24-2003, 07:34 AM
I can't say I've noticed anything of the sort.

The TR game merchandise makes no mention of Jolie anywhere...and even the movie merchandise emblazons the name LARA CROFT everywhere much more than it does any mention of AJ. (There are still plenty of both in my local branch of Forbidden Planet for me to gauge from.)

I think you are letting your rabid dislike of the poor girl fog your vision, perceptions and judgement.

RebeL_fARmeR
03-24-2003, 09:09 AM
"and even the movie merchandise emblazons the name LARA CROFT everywhere much more than it does any mention of AJ"

My point entirely, what I meant by that was movie related stuff has the name Lara Croft splattered all over it BUT there's no sign of Lara anywhere. It's the way that, as you say, there's movie related stuff with the name LARA CROFT present but what I mean is that NAME, Lara Croft, is usually attached to Angelina Jolie and the words Tomb Raider are all too closely related to AJ now too...

Ack, 5:08pm I've REALLY gotta be going!

(to be continued)

DaveJ
03-24-2003, 09:24 AM
No.....I can't really see that. You have to understand that when publicising the movie they can't use the game Lara...just as the movie Lara is never associated with the games marketing.


As star of the movie her face was bound to appear in movie-related merchandising....but very rarely with AJ's name present.

The name of Lara Croft was still pre-dominant.

I take your point that it could be seen as leading people to think that the face of AJ IS Lara Croft...but I think the general public are savvy enough to know that the game incarnation established the mythos long before the movies cottoned on.

For example, although there is a new game AND movie due out, it has been predominantly the new look game Lara that has been plastered everywhere.


As to which I'd rather look at...polygons have never really turned me on, regardless of how many there are.

RebeL_fARmeR
03-24-2003, 12:55 PM
This is missing my original point, I can appreciate that it's easier for them to use an actres than to make an FMV movie... and I appreciate that they'd make various merchandise to accompany the movie...

BUT

What I'm trying to say is that the one and only Lara is now buried under and tangled up in Angelina Jolie. Take for example if you're looking for a Lara Croft wallpaper to display on your desktop and you, say, Google search for (images: "Lara Croft" wallpaper) it's pot luck as to what you get. You'll get some Lara wallpaper but you'll also get a tonne of Angelina Jolie and movie wallpapers. Do a regular google search for, say, "Tomb Raider" on google and the GAME of Tomb Raider is suprisingly swamped by the movie. The thing is, I couldn't care less about the movie, I'm not interested in AJ or the movie (though in all honestly I don't have anything against AJ herself) I'm a LARA fan, not an AJ fan and I'm sick to death of all this non-Lara Croft related junk appearing in my search results.
It's like the title of the next movie, so far I've only really heard it being referred to as "Tomb Raider 2" IT'S ALREADY TAKEN! That's an existing game's title, Lara got there first! So what happens next year if I want to search for "Tomb Raider 2 review" or "Tomb Raider 2 wallpapers" with the objective of finding GAME related material???

What bugs me is that the REAL Lara and the TRUE meaning of Tomb Raider are being buried in this whole movie gatecrash!

Yes yes, before anyone tells me to get out more I spent numerous hours outdoors yesterday lying on a heavin' great plank of wood, from sunlight to evening... even tried to make me a little fire but it wouldn't light! :mad: GRRRRAAAAAARRGGHHH!

Sang
03-24-2003, 08:38 PM
I vote for Lara, 'cause I'm a fan of TR games, not the TR movies.

DaveJ
03-25-2003, 12:55 AM
I've yet to see the new movie referred to anywhere as Tomb Raider 2.
Its called Cradle of Life everywhere I 've been.
If it were ...so what? Its a sequel. Its a natural title. The first one being called Tomb Raider had bugger all to do with the game of the same name.

As to AJ swamping Lara all over the place...you are letting your dislike of an actress image of Lara or the idea of the movies cloud your vision...its nothing of the sort.
At the moment the new game Lara is more predominant in the media than any other image or version. Maybe you are deliberately looking in the wrong places?

As for search results...try typing in "French military victories" on Google and see what you get.


I know your point, but I just don't see it happening the way you do.

Like it or not, there are now a series of TR movies to stumble across in your search engines, and their presence is helping boost interest in the games and game sales. As a result the original game Lara will never get subsumed by anything. They are here to stay, so get used to it. Anything else is living in denial.

RebeL_fARmeR
03-25-2003, 04:57 AM
"MAYBE YOU'RE DELIBERATELY LOOKING IN THE WRONG PLACES"???

THAT'S IT!
A google search for "Tomb Raider" or "Lara Croft", I mean, that's the last thing ANYONE would've been stupid enough to do!

Man, why didn't I think of that?

DaveJ
03-25-2003, 05:01 AM
Shock horror!

I just did a Google search for 'Tomb Raider 2' and 2 out of 10 results on page 1 were for the new movie!!!


The other 8 were for some game I've never heard of!

Type in "Tomb Raider" and the same thing happens!!!

I mean, really...theres a war going on and you're letting this bother you?

RebeL_fARmeR
03-25-2003, 05:21 AM
Aaahhhh? I just did a search for Exact phrase: Tomb Raider and here's what I got:

1: Lara Croft Tomb Raider : The Cradle of Life
Register for Updates.
Description: News and pictures from Paramount and the production team.

Lara Croft: Tomb Raider
www.tombraidermovie.com/splash_frames.html - 1k -

LARA CROFT: TOMB RAIDER THE ANGEL OF DARKNESS
Description: Official site
Category: Games > Video Games > Action-Adventure > Tomb Raider Series
www.tombraider.com/ - 8k

LARA CROFT: TOMB RAIDER THE ANGEL OF DARKNESS
Description: Eidos' official site. Includes story, features, movie, model, trailers, wallpaper and press releases....
Category: Games > Video Games > ... > Tomb Raider - The Angel of Darkness
www.tombraider.com/home.html - 3k

TOMB RAIDER Trailers and TV Spots
[Enter the Official Site to Explore Lara's World]. [Large] [Medium] [Small], [Large]
[Medium] [Small], [Fullscreen] [Medium] [Small], [Fullscreen] [Medium] [Small], ...
www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/tomb_raider/ - 19k

There you go. Movie, movie, game, game, movie

FIRST results movie, movie! fARmeR no wanty movie!

DaveJ
03-25-2003, 05:29 AM
You got very different results to what I got by typing in the same words....how about the next 5 AFTER those you mentioned?

I get:
GAME
GAME
MOVIE
MOVIE
GAME
GAME
GAME
GAME
GAME
GAME

RebeL_fARmeR
03-25-2003, 05:38 AM
I pointed out specifically those first 5 because they're, like, the strongest search results. AND the other results were joint movie and game sites which made mentioning them effectively pointless.

Were you searching with google.co.uk or .com? Because surely we should get the same results, no?

Ook, 1:30, time for me to go... for now! :D

DaveJ
03-25-2003, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by RebeL_fARmeR
the other results were joint movie and game sites which made mentioning them effectively pointless.

Not really...that is the point surely? Both can exist side by side and not diminish each other?

Were you searching with google.co.uk or .com? Because surely we should get the same results, no?



I think mine is .com... but as I clear out me cookie tin regularly I get different results from time to time. Generally though...the game gets waaay more mentions and results.

RebeL_fARmeR
03-25-2003, 09:14 AM
The reason why I ignored the half movie, half game sites was because they're not specific in any particular direction... they kinda cancel each other out, ya know?

But the reason, as you say, there's so much more GAME related stuff on the net is because Tomb Raider had been going strong for, what? about 6 or 7 years and therefore it's had a lot of time to take over the net... What me no like is the sudden blanketing of movie-dominant pages which somehow always seem to make their way to the front of your search results, pushing good ol' Crofty backwards!
The movie was a big hit so therefore it's going to spread fast and dominate your search results but... I SO do NOT like it that way and holy cow! Look at the time, gotta go...

DaveJ
03-25-2003, 09:31 AM
How do you feel about the comic book series?

RebeL_fARmeR
03-25-2003, 12:28 PM
The Tomb Raider comics? I wouldn't be able to say as I've only seen the front cover... of one... once! :(

But the big difference between the movie and the comics is the character. Ok, so it's the same character but in the comics it's a hand drawn Lara that's featured (I seem to recall) and not a different person acting out Lara's character. At the end of the day the truth lies that Angelina Jolie ISN'T Lara... She ACTS as Lara's character but Jolie is NOT Lara herself. Therefore when my search results turn out movie movie movie I'm looking at AJ, not Lara. BUT with the comics, the main character is still LARA and, even though hand-drawn, it is STILL Lara who actually plays the role... So I'm cool with the comics.

I wanna go and buy one now! :D

DaveJ
03-25-2003, 12:50 PM
Some things to whet your appetite:

http://phaideaux1.homestead.com/files/TR_32_Lorez.jpg


http://phaideaux1.homestead.com/files/lararesam.jpg

It seems that "Lara as a real person" may be your stumbling block...you need her to remain virtual instead.

RebeL_fARmeR
03-25-2003, 01:09 PM
Holy Scadoobies DaveJ!!!

I WANT ONE I WANT ONE I WANT ONE! Blimey, GoranAgar would KILL you if he saw the size of those pics! :eek:

Cheers for that, I'll have a look around for some TR comics.
As you say, for me virtual is better!

--------------
(Grumbles of misery) What happened to my sig? Ooooh, I despise Lycos...

Deekman
03-25-2003, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by RebeL_fARmeR
but what I mean is that the NAME, Lara Croft, is usually attached to Angelina Jolie

Actually it's the other way 'round. The NAME, Angelina Jolie, is usually attached to Lara Croft.

When I see any pix of the game Lara, or the comic Lara, or a painted Lara,
I think of Tomb Raider. I don't think of AJ.
And when I see any pix of AJ, I think AJ. Then I think Tomb Raider.

Which brings us

back to

Lara.

And that's why we're here.
I voted Lara.

Now if only we can find those Adam Hughes catsuit covers in a size like that, Dave!

DaveJ
03-26-2003, 12:26 AM
This one?

http://www.digitalmedusa.com/ah/jul2001/TRMag2.jpg

http://www.digitalmedusa.com/ah/sep2001/ab3907ae.jpg


Gotta love that Adam Hughes.

RebeL_fARmeR
03-26-2003, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by DEEKMAN
Actually it's the other way 'round. The NAME, Angelina Jolie, is usually attached to Lara Croft.

What I meant by that was the way that a "Lara Croft" internet image search brings back quite a lot of AJ pics.

Speaking of pics, I'm busting a blood vessel trying to get my sig hosted... AIEEEEEEEE

thanhkim
03-26-2003, 11:20 AM
My vote is for Lara from the video game she is totally cool. AJ is just a very good photocopy of her but that's all. Like who'd pick aj that's so second best. Lar's is the best need I say anymore.

Joanne Croft
03-26-2003, 01:43 PM
Well, the answer is obvious !! Lara of course ! no need to ask ;)

Deekman
03-26-2003, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by DaveJ
This one?

Ooooh! Wotta treasure trove! Yeah, that's the one...
Ya know, I hate to keep repeating myself, but he's still sayin'
he's gonna get that project done...
Oh, and Tales of The Bulletproof Monk hit the comic shops today.
Cy and Ethan have a tale in it.

DaveJ
04-01-2003, 01:22 AM
Something occurred to me this morning, and I'm sure Deekman can back me up on this.

If one or two people really are worried that AJ and the movie is gonna replace the game image after 2 out of 10 search results bring back movie pages....consider this.

Batman was created over 50 years ago as a comic book character.

During those 50 years he has been seen in TV shows, videogames, movies and even had a radio show. Do a Google search on Batman and you will get any number and combination of those off-shoots coming back to you.

The movies even made 'sacriligious' changes to the established mythos, most notably the Batsuit.

And despite all that...what is still the most enduring version of Batman?

The comic strip. After all this time.
Same with Spiderman, Superman, The Punisher, X-Men etc.

Lara is still a kid in that respect, being not even into her double figures in years yet. The original videogame Lara is the one that will endure, regardless of how many movies, comic strips, anime, tea-towels, watch faces, sanitary products or chocolate bars she appears on.

THE True Lara
04-01-2003, 02:53 AM
You say the original game Lara, but do you mean the original, original, or the AOD Lara. Many characters (comic strip or otherwise) may got though a slight alteration of apperance, but few are subjected to a character overhaul, like Lara has been. What concerns me is that the AOD Lara will become 'THE' Lara image everyone recalls, despite the well-known nature of the original look.

Some characters like Batman, Superman, Spiderman, etc. have such longevity they've surpassed being of one medium, and aren't know as being a comic book charcter anymore, just a character. I have a feeling Lara's going to stay associated with the games, (though she has definately become bigger than the games) despite any naff (or otherwise) films that occur in the mean time. Doesn't mean all those tea-towels anime, comic-strips etc. that she appears on won't get stupid, or indeed create little dents in the image though.

DaveJ
04-01-2003, 03:40 AM
There are some universal elements of the character that will remain whatever the media...its only really anoraks who sit there saying "the gloves are wrong" and so on. ;)

The AOD version of Lara is the one that the media have been instructed to use from now on...and good thing too. The old version of the gal is showing her age and looking mighty dated.

susan
04-01-2003, 04:51 AM
Couldn't agree more. What Core/Eidos have with Lara Croft is a "brand" and all brands need to be carefully controlled (otherwise they are liable to lose their value) but at the same time updated and progressed to maintain their relevance and appeal in current times. Lara's image definitely needed updating hence the new AOD look - which to me is cool and modern.

My problem is the comic book images - I can't understand why Core/Eidos are allowing their brand to be portrayed in a way that is not disimilar to front covers of top-shelf magazines. I'm thinking especially the OTT sexy, leather catsuit zipper picture DaveJ has posted here.

I know you guys like this and I'm knocking you, but from my view-pt it cheapens the image and could devalue the brand ultimately.

Core/Eidos seem to be very careful with the images associated with the game (and IMO Angelina fits in very well with this brand too) but seem to allow a free-hand with the comics. :confused:

CatSuit&Ponytail
04-01-2003, 05:11 AM
Nothing "cheap" about a catsuit, Susan.

susan
04-01-2003, 06:28 AM
It's not the fact that she's wearing a catsuit per se that makes it cheap, I just mentioned it so as to identify which picture. It's the way the picture is shot - ie, her breasts bulging out whilst pulling seductively on the zipper. That picture IMO is portraying Lara as saying "bring it on guys". I'm sorry but that cheapens her image to me.

I know not everyone feels the same way as I do, so I apologise if I've offended...

DaveJ
04-01-2003, 06:33 AM
Interesting hypothesis...but I think the "Bring it on guys" aspect is accentuated - albeit in a different way - by the smoking gun.

Thats how this guy views it. It has the same impact as the shower bit at the end of TR2.

Adam Hughes is still the definitive Lara artist for me.

THE True Lara
04-01-2003, 06:40 AM
For once I have to agree with Susan in that I think some of the images in the comics make Lara look rather slutty. http://forums.eidosgames.com/images/icons/icon13.gif :( -though it has nothing to do with what she's wearing.

susan
04-01-2003, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by THE True Lara
For once I have to agree with Susan

I think there once before as well....a long, long time ago now (in a galaxy far away maybe)....or perhaps I only imagined it ;)

CatSuit&Ponytail
04-01-2003, 06:56 AM
Well, I guess it's eye of the beholder thing. I deplore the term "slutty" as it is somehow holier than thou, and reminds me somehow of bon-fires.

Also, I collect the comics, and find Lara portrayed in the same sexy and strong manner as ever. Nothing wrong with a little "come hither...Bang!", I always say. :p

DaveJ
04-01-2003, 07:02 AM
I don't see it as 'slutty' or out of order at all....and surely if anyone would, it would be a bloke?

Strong and sexy...in that order....same as ever.


Whos to say she's not about to pull the zip up?
;)

ps....its interesting to note that people have a problem with her breasts or thereabouts...but her wielding a bloody great handgun in the same pic is fine?

CatSuit&Ponytail
04-01-2003, 07:18 AM
DaveJ, surely that bit of.......hipocracy........can't think of a softer word, sorry........... doesn't surprise you?

DaveJ
04-01-2003, 07:24 AM
Well...I know which of the 2 I'd rather cite as a possible future cause of my death.

CatSuit&Ponytail
04-01-2003, 07:28 AM
Yes, when you are in your nineties, I hope, hehehe ;)

DaveJ
04-01-2003, 07:30 AM
Its why I'm taking the cod liver oil capsules now!

thanhkim
04-01-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Susan
Couldn't agree more. What Core/Eidos have with Lara Croft is a "brand" and all brands need to be carefully controlled (otherwise they are liable to lose their value) but at the same time updated and progressed to maintain their relevance and appeal in current times. Lara's image definitely needed updating hence the new AOD look - which to me is cool and modern.

My problem is the comic book images - I can't understand why Core/Eidos are allowing their brand to be portrayed in a way that is not disimilar to front covers of top-shelf magazines. I'm thinking especially the OTT sexy, leather catsuit zipper picture DaveJ has posted here.

I know you guys like this and I'm knocking you, but from my view-pt it cheapens the image and could devalue the brand ultimately.

Core/Eidos seem to be very careful with the images associated with the game (and IMO Angelina fits in very well with this brand too) but seem to allow a free-hand with the comics. :confused: Yes I agree I couldn't believe these comics where ok by Core/Eidos cause they make Lara look cheap. She looks like a tart. So I don't bother with the comics.

L Croft
04-01-2003, 10:47 AM
thats what I thought too, i saw a pic from the comic and I thought 'what is she wearing?'

DaveJ
04-01-2003, 11:33 PM
...and yet presumably you all have no problem with this:

http://phaideaux1.homestead.com/files/lara10-800.jpg

Or do you have this reaction toward anyone who wears a bikini....somehow cheapening themselves?

susan
04-02-2003, 03:00 AM
To me there's a difference between looking sexy and looking like your whole reason for being is to be available for sex. That's the difference between women wearing sexy clothes in general and the poses that women strike on front covers of porno mags.

It's not about specifically what the woman is wearing or how much flesh is showing, it's about what the picture is trying to convey. Some of those comic pictures make Lara look like she's asking for sex....to me anyway.

Regardless about how anyone one else feels about this - I know I'm not the only woman who feels this way. Everyone has their own thoughts on this - but there is no right or wrong, or contradiction or hypocrisy....human beings are complex creatures (full of conflicting emotions and thoughts) not programmed computers made up of straightforward algorithms!

There is no irrefutable logic in any of this - ie, "X doesn't like such and such picture and so should be equally against another type of picture, because as far as I'm concerned it's the equivalent thing" - Wrong, that's only your opinion ;)

DaveJ
04-02-2003, 03:21 AM
Very true.

But her being an obvious murderer is not half as objectionable?

And if she is asking for sex, her being in possession of a gun at all times whilst doing so opens up whole new avenues.....

susan
04-02-2003, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by DaveJ
But her being an obvious murderer is not half as objectionable?

Yeah, but I play the games so I can't complain about that can I?!! And in fact I'm not really complaining about the comic pictures either....they're not for me, they seem to be targeted at the male audience but that's OK. :) All I was trying to say originally was that I was surprised that Core/Eidos seemed to have different standards for their brand depending on the medium....merely pondering the issue.

And if she is asking for sex, her being in possession of a gun at all times whilst doing so opens up whole new avenues.....

Agreed! But I'll leave that for you guys to think about..... ;)

CatSuit&Ponytail
04-02-2003, 05:54 AM
I really don't like the "she looks like she's asking for sex" interpretation. Too many times has that been the excuse and/or cause of real-life violence towards women. Just because a woman is sexy and proud of it, doesn't mean she wants to be jumping into bed (or forced into the bushes) with any Tom, **** or Harry. If an invitation for sex isn't expressed directly, it must not be assumed to have been implied. To assume this is the message is as good as putting women back into veils!

If she is portrayed as inviting and sexy, what's wrong with that? There is nothing at all wrong with an adult woman wanting to be admired and thought to be beautiful in a seductive way.:mad: There is also nothing wrong with a grown woman deciding to have (or not have) lover/s!

Please rethink the way in which you interpret these things. It is a dangerous slope I think.

susan
04-02-2003, 07:13 AM
Hmmmm, I think I haven't explained myself very well.

Lets ignore the fact that Lara isn't actually a real person! I'm not saying she's literally "asking for sex", what I am saying is that in some of those pictures she is posed in a way that suggests that she's asking for sex - in the same way they do on the front covers of porno mags!!! No-one really believes the girls on the front covers of these are asking for sex either (I hope anyway) - but they are posed to make it look as if they are - that's what sells the mags!!!!!!!!!!!! (It seems to me that to deny this is to deny that a woman can "ask" for sex in a non-verbal way, and this just isn't true....).

I don't think that's a wrong interpretation, or that I should rethink the way I interpret it (I think that if you sat on the editorial board of one of these mags you'd find they openly discussed the fact that they try to get their cover models to look as if they were asking for sex), or that it's a dangerous slope.

IMO it's only a dangerous slope if you really believe that women are asking for sex because they are wearing sexy clothes. I'm not meaning to say that.

I certainly don't think what I've said means how you've interpreted it. IMO - a woman has the right to dress and look how she wants and nobody should take that as an invitation to force violence onto her. I'm as feminist as they come and believe in every woman's right to live her life as she wants with no judgement or prejudice. I myself have worn the most ridiculously sexy outfits imaginable (and still do when I feel like it)...I am not knocking ANYONE.

There certainly isn't anything wrong with a woman looking inviting and seductive if she wants to. And of course a woman should have as many lovers as she wants....

I don't especially like these kind of pictures of Lara in the same way that I'm not overly fond of the porno mags either. It's just the way I feel....I'm not trying to change anyone else's preferences - honest :)

DaveJ
04-02-2003, 07:17 AM
Do you carry a gun whilst wearing these afore-mentioned outfits....?

...sorry... I'm drifting again.... :D

susan
04-02-2003, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by DaveJ
Do you carry a gun whilst wearing these afore-mentioned outfits....?



Hehe, wouldn't you like to know..........

..........Well, I'm not going to tell you ! ;)

DaveJ
04-02-2003, 07:55 AM
Its OK.

You don't have to tell me.






Just post the pictures......

susan
04-02-2003, 08:14 AM
Nah.

DaveJ
04-02-2003, 08:54 AM
....in a brown paper bag. First Class.

susan
04-02-2003, 09:01 AM
What do you get up to in your spare time I wonder....

Never mind, too much information, as they say.

DaveJ
04-02-2003, 11:43 AM
I just won a bet with myself.
'2 posts is all it would take'.
;)

Trent , Kurtis
04-02-2003, 11:44 AM
Well ......... couldn't you have had one that said BOTH !? But if I had to chosse I'd probably say Lara cause she's such a strong willed character and values her independants ( like ME !! )

the last frustration
04-02-2003, 12:10 PM
http://www.boomspeed.com/_tlf/lara_aj.gif

:D

RebeL_fARmeR
04-03-2003, 03:40 AM
Go on, pull the trigger...

DaveJ
04-03-2003, 04:06 AM
The shower scene in Tomb Raider 2 you mean? Yeah...I thought that was a little pointless, too.

susan
04-03-2003, 05:47 AM
Originally posted by DaveJ
I just won a bet with myself.
'2 posts is all it would take'.
;)

Just so long as you know what you're talking about....;)

THE True Lara
04-03-2003, 06:18 AM
Nice one TLF!!!! :D:D:D

DaveJ
04-03-2003, 09:07 AM
And the beauty of it is, is that it is sooo flexible!

http://phaideaux1.homestead.com/files/dc.jpg

http://phaideaux1.homestead.com/files/sh.jpg

the last frustration
04-03-2003, 09:18 AM
Heheh. Yes, blow Alex's head off... :D:D:D

RebeL_fARmeR
04-03-2003, 10:03 AM
I'd like that... :D

Joanne Croft
04-05-2003, 03:11 AM
nice pics, davej

Kimmy-Lou
04-16-2003, 11:33 AM
Lara definately, I was actually put off watchting the movie, becasue I personally would have liked to have seen Catherine Zeta Jones as Lara rather than AJ. But, I would have DEFINATELY seen it if it was an FMV movie, but things like that are complicated but, wouldn't it have been cheaper to do that, rather than paying actors, and crew etc.

?????????/

:p

RebeL_fARmeR
04-18-2003, 03:45 AM
Good question. It can be done, no problem, it'd be like a massive 2 hour in-game cut scene. I think it'd work out cheaper to make a CGI than to pay actors and actresses.

But they didn't!.....:(

Johnny
04-20-2003, 08:02 AM
There is only 1 Lara Croft... and that is Lara Croft! :D

DaveJ
06-02-2003, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by RebeL_fARmeR
It can be done, no problem, it'd be like a massive 2 hour in-game cut scene. I think it'd work out cheaper to make a CGI than to pay actors and actresses.

But they didn't!.....:(


Because the "Final Fantasy" movie proved that audiences aren't interested in 2 hour CGI realistic looking movies.

Thank God.

Keep it real.

CGI sucks donkey spheres.

RebeL_fARmeR
06-03-2003, 03:41 AM
But what if the Final Fantasy movie was just a classic rubbish movie? Actors or no actors?
Or maybe it was just a total let-down and it kept up to noone's expectations... Like The Matrix (for me, anyway)!

There's something unique about Lara whereas the only person who would be suitable to play her would be... well, herself!

PLAYA INC'S BIG THUG
06-09-2003, 09:46 AM
LARA!!!!!!!!!!!!

DaveJ
06-11-2003, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by RebeL_fARmeR


There's something unique about Lara whereas the only person who would be suitable to play her would be... well, herself!

I give you Batman, Superman, James Bond, Jack Ryan, Wolverine, DareDevil, Wonder Woman, Blade etc etc etc

CatSuit&Ponytail
06-12-2003, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by DaveJ
I give you Batman, Superman, James Bond, Jack Ryan, Wolverine, DareDevil, Wonder Woman, Blade etc etc etc


Don't give them to him, give them to me! *pets the nice superheroes and secret agents while crooning softly*

DaveJ
06-12-2003, 12:32 AM
I'll share Wonder Woman with you.....

CatSuit&Ponytail
06-18-2003, 05:13 AM
I'll share Wonder Woman with you.....

:o Just read this... CS&PTLHFTO! :D



Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that brings back memories, hehehehe. ;)

Did you see this?
http://www.catagar.com/treasure/WonderWomanSuperGeek.jpg
I thought for sure you or Deek would comment. :p

GoranAgar
06-30-2003, 01:37 AM
Ha, I can enjoy that everyday. :D

CatSuit&Ponytail
06-30-2003, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by GoranAgar
Ha, I can enjoy that everyday. :D

;) Yeah, the heels of my red boots are getting scuffed.... :p :D

AgentSmith
07-07-2003, 01:17 PM
I don´t hate AJ, but I never thought that she´s got much resemblance with the original Lara... No (human) person looks like Lara in effect...:(


:D

Mangar The Dark
07-08-2003, 07:29 AM
She would have resembled her more if they stuck to the original script. In it, she was constantly running into walls going, "oof!" and at the very end of the movie, she inexplicably took a flying leap off of a cliff, and swan-dived to her death. Jolie insisted they change this ending. What a pity.

AgentSmith
07-08-2003, 08:33 PM
oh yea :D but you´ve forgotten that in the original script AJ had to explain at the beginning of the movie how she will carry out her movements :D

thanhkim
07-08-2003, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by AgentSmith
I don´t hate AJ, but I never thought that she´s got much resemblance with the original Lara... No (human) person looks like Lara in effect...:(


:D Couldn't said it better. Lara is to lovely to be human. The women who do Lara's voice on the games are amazing and that I have to say is one facter I found that I was angry was that even though aj has a nice voice it just wasn't Larish enough it was so not angelic enough. Lara's got the type of voice you could listen too all day just beautiful like a songbird in the games anyhow.

LoveKurtis
11-21-2003, 05:57 AM
Lara Croft,
Angelina Jolie plays Lara, she's an actress

cherrynight
12-18-2003, 01:00 AM
Lara Croft, she is my love.

I hate the movie and the mad woman AJ.

marsoa
12-27-2003, 01:00 PM
Actually, it annoys me a lot that on TR websites there are photos of Angelina Jolie presented as Lara Croft. Lara Croft is originally a videogame character, so she is simply Lara Croft, not Angelina Jolie. I mean, a TR movie is a movie with actors and a TR game features Lara Croft. Two different things. Why is almost everyone "forcing" me to accept Angelina as Lara...?
Before the first TR movie you could visit any of TR websites and you knew you would see Lara Croft website. Nowadays it is Angelina Jolie who is being presented as "real" Lara Croft almost everywhere.
I don't care about "official Lara Croft models" and related stuff. I only enjoy the game. Pictures of Angelina or other "real" Laras drive me nuts. *sighs But maybe I am the onlyone who is so allergic to that...