E3 2012

[angebd0625]

Edit by Driber: Here is a live countdown timer for ya'll to stare obsessively at :D

http://driber.net/os/forum/countdown_e3_2012.html

Update by The Hylden (June 4th):

Ready to kick off E3? (http://trailers-ak.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/e3_pdf/E3_Schedule_v4.pdf)

Tune into the Xbox: Entertainment Evolved E3 media briefing this Monday June 4 at 9:30 AM PST on GT.TV/Spike TV, Xbox LIVE, or the Xbox Facebook Page (https://apps.facebook.com/elc_ent_expo/) for a new and exclusive look at Tomb Raider.

You can also catch Lara (and Karl) on GT.TV/Spike’s All Access Live coverage in the 12:00 PM PST - 1:00 PM PST slot, alongside other notable E3 offerings.

As with the trailer, this handy time zone converter (http://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/) is great if you’re wondering what time to tune in! The full roster GT.TV/Spike coverage can be found here (http://trailers-ak.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/e3_pdf/E3_Schedule_v4.pdf), but please note that the schedule is in Eastern time!





Update by Driber (May 27):

Tomb Raider is #2 on GT Countdown: Top 10 Most Anticipated Games of E3 2012 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/top-10-gt-countdown/730562)

10. Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
9. Metro: Last Light
8. Hitman: Absolution
7. God of War: Ascension
6. Halo 4
5. Resident Evil 6
4. The Last of Us
3. Assassin's Creed III
2. Tomb Raider
1. Wii U - The Entire Line-up


Update by Driber (May 8th):

Road to E3: Tomb Raider (http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/05/08/road-to-e3-tomb-raider-2)

Update by Driber (May 7th):

Square Enix E3 Line Up Revealed


Tomb Raider (Crystal Dynamics)
Hitman: Absolution (IO Interactive)
Sleeping Dogs (United Front Games)
Quantum Conundrum (Airtight Games)
Heroes of Ruin (N-Space)
Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix)
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy (Square Enix)


source (http://www.hookedgamers.com/blogs/markbarley/2012/05/07/square_enix_e3_line_up_revealed.html)

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Original post by angebd0625:

I am getting excited about E3 coming up in June. I'm hoping there will be alot of new info released on Tomb Raider. Does anyone know what they will be revealing. I've heard that combat will be revealed but will they show a demo or something. Does anyone know anything else?

[adobeARTIST]

I feel where you're coming from (believe me), and we're all hungry for new info on our most anticipated game. But I think it's best not to speculate it on it too much, and open a floodgate of rumours and rampant speculation. Let us be surprised by what we will see in the weeks to come :)

[Shaikh]

I heard Karl said once in a podcast that they will reveal the combat system around E3. So we can see a combat demo at E3. I want to see a long demo. :D

And are CD going to attend the Microsoft Press conference again? Anyone knows?

[tombraidergal]

I'd rather not know anything until at least October! It's near the release date i know, but that means that we won't spoil it for ourselves since we have no self control haha XD I'm going to avoid as much to do with this tomb raider as is possible :P

[Lukass]

^ You can ignore this forum section, E3 etc. That easy it is.

[Shaikh]

^ You can ignore this forum section, E3 etc. That easy it is.
+1. :thumb:

[Driber]

I'd rather not know anything until at least October! It's near the release date i know, but that means that we won't spoil it for ourselves since we have no self control haha XD I'm going to avoid as much to do with this tomb raider as is possible :P

To those worried about possible spoilers: We'll make sure all stuff about E3 stays in 1 thread! (Or several ones - but they'll be clearly marked as having spoilers inside.)

We'll create a dedicated one (or may just use this one) in a while and have that be the base for all important info (floor show dates & times if available, links to live feeds if available, perhaps some fancy countdown timer, etc) and other discussions / anticipation around E3 :)

[Shaikh]

So there will be TR media at E3 2012. :p Good to hear that officially. :D Hope TR will be on the Microsoft Press Conference once again. Only 35 days and 8 hours till the start of Microsoft E3 Press Conference (http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=E3+2012+Microsoft+Press+Conference&month=06&day=04&year=2012&hour=09&min=30&sec=00&p0=137). :)

[Driber]

So there will be TR media at E3 2012. :p Good to hear that officially. :D

http://driber.net/os/oh-shaikh.jpg

[Shaikh]

:lol:Hahaha. I am proud to see my name on that famous picture. :D

[Ivana KC]

I'd rather not know anything until at least October! It's near the release date i know, but that means that we won't spoil it for ourselves since we have no self control haha XD I'm going to avoid as much to do with this tomb raider as is possible :P

You don't want to spoil anything for yourself and that's fine, but think about other people. I am, for example, dying to hear any news about new game. Every new information makes me more excited and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[Shaikh]

You don't want to spoil anything for yourself and that's fine, but think about other people. I am, for example, dying to hear any news about new game. Every new information makes me more excited and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Put me on your team as well. Beside there are different types of gamers around the world and CD needs to release new stuff to attract them. :)

[Ivana KC]

Put me on your team as well. Beside there are different types of gamers around the world and CD needs to release new stuff to attract them. :)

I'm sure that other players, who are not TR fans like we are here, will loose interest in this new TR game if they don't hear some news.

[larafan25]

I'm sure that other players, who are not TR fans like we are here, will loose interest in this new TR game if they don't hear some news.

Perhaps they may become distracted, but if there was interest to lose then there's certainly interest to gain, and there's time for such a thing.

[dark7angel]

IGN provided a list with every game known to be at E3 this year. Check it out here (http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/122/1224202p1.html). :cool:

[Ivana KC]

IGN provided a list with every game known to be at E3 this year. Check it out here (http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/122/1224202p1.html). :cool:

http://i45.tinypic.com/ibmaea.png

So it's really official? :D

[Driber]

psshhh, whoever doubted it should be banned :rasp:

[Shaikh]

IGN provided a list with every game known to be at E3 this year. Check it out here (http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/122/1224202p1.html). :cool:
E3 is so damn big event that CrystalD has to come out from that huge deep foxhole to show new phenomenal TR footage. :p

[xXTombRaiderXx]

I am getting excited about E3 coming up in June. I'm hoping there will be alot of new info released on Tomb Raider. Does anyone know what they will be revealing. I've heard that combat will be revealed but will they show a demo or something. Does anyone know anything else? well let's put it this way, we will get what we want at this year's E3, they will be revieling most things (maybe even everything) were just going to have to wait and see :P

[RyanRaider]

E3 this year for Tomb Raider is going to be EPIC! CrystalD will have big suprises for us ;)

[Driber]

As we're just about a month away, I thought we could do with a live countdown timer ;)

http://driber.net/os/forum/countdown_e3_2012.html

[a big house]

^ That. Is. Awesome.

Is there a way that you could put it on the main thread list?

[Driber]

Added SE's E3 line-up to OP.

^ That. Is. Awesome.

Is there a way that you could put it on the main thread list?

You mean here (http://forums.eidosgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=290)?

It's possible, but...why?

[Darkwoodsoftime]

This Is Awesome ! thx Driber ....
to be honest .. this Year passed quite fast for me :D

[larafan25]

The seconds are going by so fast, we're almost there.

._.

[Shaikh]

The seconds are going by so fast, we're almost there.

._.
The longest passing seconds of our life. ;)

[a big house]

@Driber Yeah there and I don't know, just as a reminder I suppose :)

[Driber]

^ Not sure if I'd like it to be so much "in-your-face".

But thanks for the suggestion!

I might consider it when we're getting closer to E3 :)

[.bit]

Great timer *_* I did a similar thing for an Italian TR forum, but it's not even remotely good like yours!

[MaxRaider]

OMG, I cannot wait for this E3! I'm in dire need of new info!

[Shaikh]

IGN Road To E3: Tomb Raider (http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/05/08/road-to-e3-tomb-raider-2)

[d1n0_xD]

^ I was waiting for that, thanks :D Saw the DmC article :D

[TranceTrouble]

^^ thanks for the link Shaikh, you might want to post that in the Times thread as well :)

[Driber]

Cheers for the link. OP updated :)

TT, can you do the OP of The Times? I think it's safe to start the new wave section now ;)

[TranceTrouble]

Cheers for the link. OP updated :)

TT, can you do the OP of The Times? I think it's safe to start the new wave section now ;)

all done, if anything needs changes feel free to say so :D

[Driber]

Awesome, thanks mate.

I see you even added a link to the menu and found your way around the jumplink code, hehe :D

[TranceTrouble]

Awesome, thanks mate.

I see you even added a link to the menu and found your way around the jumplink code, hehe :D

hehe jup, learned a little programming skills :rasp::D

[Driber]

Now onto email piping :lol:

[Shaikh]

Welcome Trance. :wave:


TT, can you do the OP of The Times? I think it's safe to start the new wave section now ;)

An OT question which is killing me for answer. :) The Times thread OP poster was Tomb Raider, a news bot? Who manage it? How can TT (TranceTrouble) edit it? :confused:

[TranceTrouble]

Welcome Trance. :wave:

An OT question which is killing me for answer. :) The Times thread OP poster was Tomb Raider, a news bot? Who manage it? How can TT (TranceTrouble) edit it? :confused:

a few months ago Driber needed a few volunteers who helped him out updating this post, that means that the volunteers can edit the post as the Tomb Raider bot. To add new articles, the latest podcasts etc. :D

blugh email piping, first need a coffee :p

[Danielsun]

certainly going to be an e3 to look forward to, my main games have got to be TR and Halo 4 everything else is a bonus

[d1n0_xD]

Too bad Bioshock: Infinite is delayed to as far as February 13th, but it's for a good cause :D Ken Levine said they aren't quite satisfied with the game and they think they can and should tweak it a little bit and that's awesome, IMO :D Wonder what raged TR fans would do if Karl said something like this (Shaikh, where are you :p), especially since Bioshock won't be at E3 now :D

[Shaikh]

Too bad Bioshock: Infinite is delayed to as far as February 13th, but it's for a good cause :D
Isn't it February 26th?

[d1n0_xD]

^ Yeah, it probably is, didn't check it :p

[RyanRaider]

do we know what day tomb raider will be at E3?

[adobeARTIST]

do we know what day tomb raider will be at E3?

I'm actually wondering if it'll be part of Microsoft's conference like last year.

[Davesname]

I'm only here to find out one thing,. Are there any Game demos of the newest TR games. Not trailers but actual game demos.

[larafan25]

^There is no playable demo of this new TR game....yet at least (CD please).

Though you might find some demos for the older games around the Internet, there might be a demo of TRU on PSN.

[Driber]

I don't think the TRU demo is on PSN anymore.

Here is the PC version, though: http://www.gamefront.com/files/12211141/Tomb_Raider__Underworld_Demo

[MeaganMarie]

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Karl just returned from London, where he hosted an event similar to the recent E3 judges night (http://officialtombraiderblog.tumblr.com/post/23300391212/as-promised-here-are-a-few-more-photos-from-last) in Los Angeles. Check out the theater setup at the hotel!

Excited for E3 yet? :D

[Driber]

10 days left! :eek:

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Karl just returned from London, where he hosted an event similar to the recent E3 judges night (http://officialtombraiderblog.tumblr.com/post/23300391212/as-promised-here-are-a-few-more-photos-from-last) in Los Angeles. Check out the theater setup at the hotel!

Excited for E3 yet? :D

I wonder what's on the screen there...

Looks like an intro to a __________

[TranceTrouble]

oh yeah bring it on E3.
i'm waiting on the phrase: coming in a hotel near you soon :D;)

[LadyRufina]

@Driber: Stop teasing us! :p 10 days is like 10 years in waiting-for-Tomb-Raider time :(

[Driber]

C'mon dear LadyR, let's get psyched!!!

http://driber.net/os/forum/countdown_e3_2012.html

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[Shaikh]

C'mon dear LadyR, let's get psyched!!!

http://driber.net/os/forum/countdown_e3_2012.html

http://driber.net/os/party.gif

Which time is this countdown pointing into? E3 Microsoft Conference will start 90 minutes before this countdown ends. And Tomb Raider is supposed to be on Microsoft Press Conference as well! :scratch:

[adobeARTIST]

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Karl just returned from London, where he hosted an event similar to the recent E3 judges night (http://officialtombraiderblog.tumblr.com/post/23300391212/as-promised-here-are-a-few-more-photos-from-last) in Los Angeles. Check out the theater setup at the hotel!

Excited for E3 yet? :D

How do I get into that theatre?? :wave:

[LadyRufina]

I refuse to get psyched until I see my motivational picture of chocolate, Driber :p

[Driber]

http://driber.net/os/chocolate_demot_poster.jpg

There, no more excuses now :p

[Metalrocks]

How do I get into that theatre?? :wave:

lol. dont you mean i want that big screen at home to play the game? :p
i sure would like that.

[Driber]

Heh, I bet some hardcore TR fans will be playing the new game through a beamer!

[LadyRufina]

psyyyyyyyyyyyched! :lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Driber]

Something awesome coming to a forum near you.






Very SOON! ;)

[Shaikh]

This render is just EPIC. Can't wait for the full render. :D

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[TranceTrouble]

Very nice render indeed, this is also the one used in the banner of the teaser for E3 :D

[Metalrocks]

looks nice. want that as a wallpaper and as a huge poster :D

[dark7angel]

Indeed, that render is Fantastic!!! Can't wait to have it full to put it as my wallpaper!!

[LadyRufina]

Ok this may seem a bit far fetched but I'm only reading this from their body stances and facial expressions but it almost looks like Lara is going to attack something/someone out of rage (maybe they killed Roth). It looks like she's going deeper into the fire and the man looks like he's trying to get away and he's calling to Lara to get away from the fire but the look on her face is like she doesn't even care if she's in danger because she needs to get her revenge or get something important. (by BinRaider)

I saw this on the Tomb Raider Forums and I think this is exactly what's happening in the render :D

[Metalrocks]

I saw this on the Tomb Raider Forums and I think this is exactly what's happening in the render :D

i think this person is right. i would say its at the end of the game were lara became strong willed. she still looks a bit worried though but more confident.

still like this picture. like the epic conclusion of the game that will determined laras destiny.
thats a wallpaper that will set your screen on fire. :D

[dark7angel]

I just found this: http://uk.ign.com/events/e3/2012/live-video

IGN's E3 Live Video schedule has TR on Tuesday, June 5th at 2PM PST (10PM GMT)

[Metalrocks]

I just found this: http://uk.ign.com/events/e3/2012/live-video

IGN's E3 Live Video schedule has TR on Tuesday, June 5th at 2PM PST (10PM GMT)

i think you posted the wrong link. it showed me a 6min long final fantasy video.

[TranceTrouble]

i think you posted the wrong link. it showed me a 6min long final fantasy video.

i think its the right link but the video stream is not up yet, so it picks something else to play :D

[Metalrocks]

i think its the right link but the video stream is not up yet, so it picks something else to play :D

lol. ok. this means i have to wait.

[Madenice]

lol. ok. this means i have to wait.
so we are all waiting!! :P

But I'm confused, in the trailer of last week, there was something about that more info tomorrow will be announced, im confused *looks with puppy eyes*

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-gt-tv/730565#comment_head_text

almost felt like a kid again, like the trailer of last year, 2011. :D

[Shaikh]

^ Indeed. Karl's Tweet:
@geoffkeighley aaaaaand don't forget to mention that we have a VERY big announcement off the back of the @tombraider trailer reveal :)

[Madenice]

Damn! I need to stalk those employees of CD more! xD :lol:

[Metalrocks]

damn, 31th for me but still have to wait either to late evening or tomorrow. :mad2:

@madenice
this could be you stalking CD :p

ls_x5-TPXkY

damn, even scared me there for a moment :eek:

[Madenice]

Haha ! :P ninja cat! :D :P yeah, I have to wait until evening, if I'm correct :P ah well ;)

[Shaikh]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4xbkoGoLl1qkq7tbo1_500.jpg

What did you think of the Tomb Raider “Crossroads” trailer and the big March 5, 2013 release date reveal?*If you missed it, hold tight and surf your way to IGN.com (http://www.ign.com/) at 10:45 PM PST for the online debut.

Want more Tomb Raider? Tune into the Xbox: Entertainment Evolved E3 media briefing this Monday June 4 at 9:30 AM PST on Spike TV or Xbox LIVE for another exclusive look at the game.

277 more days until release. Damn I want to play it now. :)

[TranceTrouble]

I feel about the same.*

twinpistols (http://twinpistols.tumblr.com/post/24177552998/less-than-one-hour-until-the-crossroads-trailer):

LESS THAN ONE HOUR UNTIL THE “CROSSROADS” TRAILER!



haha that made me laugh very nice :D

btw that trailer you posted is looking brighter then the one posted by GameTrailers :D

[wonderpho]

I'm looking forward to the top 3 games in SE list:
1.Tomb Raider
2.Hitman Absolution
3.Sleeping Dogs

:)

[LadyRufina]

damn, 31th for me but still have to wait either to late evening or tomorrow. :mad2:

@madenice
this could be you stalking CD :p

ls_x5-TPXkY

damn, even scared me there for a moment :eek:

You idiot!! I think I woke my neighbours up. Damn you, metal! :p

[LARALOVERnr.1]

I just found this: http://uk.ign.com/events/e3/2012/live-video

IGN's E3 Live Video schedule has TR on Tuesday, June 5th at 2PM PST (10PM GMT)

So that means.... 11PM GMT+1 right? Where can I watch it live?

[Madenice]

So that means.... 11PM GMT+1 right? Where can I watch it live?

That means we can't sleep that night because we're too excited after seeing everything :p

[LARALOVERnr.1]

^
I knoooooooooooow! I'll probably end up re-watching it 'till 2am and after that I'll just lay in my bed fantasizing about how awesome this game is gonna be :D

But srsly, does anyone know where I can watch it live? Will it be live on spike TV?

[Darkwoodsoftime]

i believe u can watch the whole thing Live on these :

E3 on MicroSoft (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/e3) , G4TV (http://www.g4tv.com/e3-2012/) , GameSpot (http://e3.gamespot.com/) , Nintendo (http://e3.nintendo.com/) , Sony (http://us.playstation.com/e3-2012/) , EA (http://www.ea.com/e3) , Ubisoft (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKRWubusKBU)

im not really sure , but it think these are the right links :D EA or ubisoft will only show their own press , i think G4tv or Gametrailers channels are the best

[Quolli]

IGN will have some coverage with their reporters. Their host tells you the times here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnmL8ddhs10&list=PLE196726F02565118&index=1&feature=plcp

[gsusfrk]

@madenice this could be you stalking CD :p

damn, even scared me there for a moment :eek:

Scared me too! Was epic though!

For E3 though
My top Five are:

1. Divinity: Original Sin
2. Tomb Raider
3. NFS Most Wanted 2
4. Elder Scrolls: Skyrim (New)
5. Lost Planet 3/Planetside 2

[Shaikh]

Scared me too! Was epic though!

For E3 though
My top Five are:

1. Divinity: Original Sin
2. Tomb Raider
3. NFS Most Wanted 2
4. Elder Scrolls: Skyrim (New)
5. Lost Planet 3/Planetside 2

Tomb Raider is second!!! :eek:
BTW, its only Need For Speed: Most Wanted. :)

[d1n0_xD]

Is anyone excited about Far Cry 3? I mean, the game's antagonist is up there with Joker, and it's liked more than the protagonist XD

[adobeARTIST]

Is anyone excited about Far Cry 3? I mean, the game's antagonist is up there with Joker, and it's liked more than the protagonist XD

The only villain that's in the same league as the Joker is Darth Vader!

*of course I mean classic trilogy Vader, not Christian Haydenson :p

[Driber]

so we are all waiting!! :P

But I'm confused, in the trailer of last week, there was something about that more info tomorrow will be announced, im confused *looks with puppy eyes*

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-gt-tv/730565#comment_head_text

almost felt like a kid again, like the trailer of last year, 2011. :D

Release date? :)

[RosePetals]

1) Tomb Raider
2) Resident Evil 6
3) Assassin's Creed 3

Bring it on!!! :thumb:

[gsusfrk]

Tomb Raider is second!!! :eek:
BTW, its only Need For Speed: Most Wanted. :)

It's second because #1 is, IMO, something I thought the company should have gone with long time ago!

And because I don't enjoy Tomb Raider as much as a good, deep RPG - especially isometric/top down. The previous Tomb Raider title (Top Down) I didn't enjoy that much.

Nothing wrong with this Tomb Raider, it's just I'm more excited about Divinity: Original Sin and what it could have to offer than what I've seen Tomb Raider has. It might change afterwards, who knows. :)

[Metalrocks]

my list is very small.

assassins creed 3 and tomb raider are the only games i want so far.

[The Hylden]

Yesterday Crystal Dynamics celebrated its 20th anniversary in a big staff gathering! There was cake, custom Crystal glassware, and a look back at a handful of the games the studio has produced over the years. Congrats team!

Crystal Tidbits are exactly that - a weekly blip about life at Crystal Dynamics.

I see a Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver cake there! :) Looks like Defiance's art, but it's hard to tell from the angle and size here.

[Raina Audron]

I see a Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver cake there! :) Looks like Defiance's art, but it's hard to tell from the angle and size here.

yeah, that´s what I´ve thought too! :D are there any close-ups pics of the cakes?

[Locoman42]

Please, Correct me if I'm wrong, but here (so far) are the dates/times that Tomb Raider will be shown at E3/etc.
Xbox: Entertainment Evolved: June 4th, Monday at 9:30 AM (PST) So, Tomorrow

E3- So far it will be shown at 10pm GMT? June 5th, Tuesday?

I'm just trying to get all the dates together and convert them so I KNOW I will see both :)
Quick Question: Will BOTH shows be shown on SpikeTV?? and if so/not are there any other stations (North American stations please.... lol) that will cover E3? Also, if IGN is showing E3 online will it be current (live stream)? and if so will it also be recorded so that we can go back and watch what happened before if we DO happen to miss the time?
If none of you know that's perfectly fine. I have gotten enough help/info from this thread to get me far :) :)
-Locoman42

[adobeARTIST]

Less than 12 hours till the Microsoft coverage of Tomb Raider. Hoping this time we'll see a fully live demo.

Seriously, it's like waiting for santa claus. You know you gotta go to bed for the next morning to come, but you just don't wanna!! :nut:

[Shaikh]

Is anyone excited about Far Cry 3? I mean, the game's antagonist is up there with Joker, and it's liked more than the protagonist XD

Yes, Vass looks a very strong antagonist. Excited about Far Cry 3 at E3. Their E3 Teaser trailer was amazing, one of the best teaser trailer I have ever seen. :)

My most anticipated at E3 2012:


Tomb Raider
Assassin's Creed III
Far Cry 3

Hitman: Absolution
UBISOFT's new announcement

Need For Speed: Most Wanted

Dishonored

Resident Evil 6

Medal of Honor: Warfighter
Crysis 3
Unreal Engine 4
The Elder Scroll V: Skyrim DLC Dawnguard

This is the first time I am not waiting for a FIFA demo at E3. :(

[MeaganMarie]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m52fb0OjYn1qkq7tbo3_500.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m52fb0OjYn1qkq7tbo1_500.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m52fb0OjYn1qkq7tbo2_500.jpg

And…we’re in LA!

Just arrived at the hotel and look what was waiting to greet us - Tomb Raider keycards! After settling in a small group of us took off to the convention center to pick up badges.

Sister Square Enix titles Hitman and Sleeping Dogs have some nice placement on lights throughout the city! Lara’s also got a premium spot right as you walk into the convention center.

It’s going to be an amazing week!*

[Madenice]

I guess this is my list, but I'm not holding track of everything, so I'll see ;)

Tomb Raider
Hitman: Absolution
Unreal Engine 4
UBISOFT's new announcement
Crysis 3
Far Cry 3

Release date? :)
I guess I figured that out after Tuesday :)

[Driber]

HEADS UP, FOLKS!

Right after the Microsoft show (date and time here (http://officialtombraiderblog.tumblr.com/post/24372524299/ready-to-kick-off-e3-tune-into-the-xbox)) we will have a new thread going live here for questions about the show.

These questions will be gathered and sent straight to Meagan at E3, where she will be using them to whip up a short E3 Podcast.

Important note: Due to the busy E3 schedule, this thread will be live
for only a few hours.

So keep your eyes peeled on this forum section right after the Microsoft show!

[Metalrocks]

thanks for the heads up driber :)

[d1n0_xD]

Yes, Vass looks a very strong antagonist. Excited about Far Cry 3 at E3. Their E3 Teaser trailer was amazing, one of the best teaser trailer I have ever seen. :)

There's also the Insane Edition trailer where he talks about his bobblehead figurine... I don't know what he's saying since I don't have sound but I saw people commenting that is disturbing but in a good way :D And you get the Vaas bobblehead in the Insane Edition :3

I'll be tracking mostly everything that's going on E3, but I'm excited about Tomb Raider and Fa Cry 3 :D Too bad Bioshock: Infinite won't be at E3 :/

[Madenice]

Exciting Driber!!

[Driber]

I'm exciting?

[TranceTrouble]

great pictures from Meagan already, can't wait for more :D

[LARALOVERnr.1]

I'm exciting?

Very! :naughty:

;)

[Madenice]

I'm exciting?
Oh yes, yes off course !! :p
You bring exciting news, in an exciting way! So yush!! :nut: :D

Very! :naughty:

;)
:D

[Driber]

Only a few hours left (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Xbox%3A+Entertainment+Evolved+E3+media+Tomb+Raider+event&iso=20120604T0930&p1=137) until the E3 MS show! Who's excited? :D

Don't forget to tune in to the live web feeds!

Details are in the OP of this thread :)

[Shaikh]

I am excited. 150 minutes until E3. Goosebumps here. I hope CrystalD will blow every one's mind with the demo. Tomb Raider to be the best game of E3 2012. :D

There's also the Insane Edition trailer where he talks about his bobblehead figurine... I don't know what he's saying since I don't have sound but I saw people commenting that is disturbing but in a good way And you get the Vaas bobblehead in the Insane Edition :3

I'll be tracking mostly everything that's going on E3, but I'm excited about Tomb Raider and Fa Cry 3 Too bad Bioshock: Infinite won't be at E3 :/

He used the F word a lot. And dialogues were EPIC. :)

[Darkwoodsoftime]

I'm Excited as hell :D i cancelled everything i had planed for tonight :p ... (let's see , my plans for tonight was : eat dinner in Bed , see if i can jump from my door straight to my bed , make some pop corn and watch a show ..... well in bed :rolleyes:) there were some more things i wanted to try .. hmm :scratch:

[Driber]

...there were some more things i wanted to try .. hmm :scratch:

If those events were set to happen in the same location, then I'm not sure we would like to know :/

[TranceTrouble]

lol i dont wanna know ^^

[Darkwoodsoftime]

you guys sure you don't wanna snuggle :naughty: http://www.naruto-kun.com/images/gallery/162/jiraiya30.gif ?! :lol: jk

three times now : Spamming is wrong , Spamming is Wrong , Spammin is Wrong :whistle:

[Driber]

Sure, let's g....oh, you were kidding. And I just wanted to get in and spoon :(

[Metalrocks]

i guess i iwll miss it all but well. im sure it will be on youtube and tones of links here to catch up :)

[adobeARTIST]

An hour to go, just an hour to go!

*bounce bounce* :D:D:D

[Driber]

*bounce bounce* :D:D:D

hehe, I quite liked this image that LC is Me posted in the Crossroads trailer thread:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0g3pnfUHF1qjnikk.gif

Pretty much sums up the excitement of a lot of TR fans right about now, I suppose :D

[TranceTrouble]

will miss it to, will watch it later i guess :p

[Shaikh]

38 minutes until E3 kicks-off. :D

[LARALOVERnr.1]

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!! It'll be on Spike, right?

[TranceTrouble]

guess it will be yes:
Ready to kick off E3? Tune into the Xbox: Entertainment Evolved E3 media briefing this Monday June 4 at 9:30 AM PST on GT.TV/Spike TV, Xbox LIVE, or the Xbox Facebook Page for a new and exclusive look at Tomb Raider.


i'm watching it on the FB (https://apps.facebook.com/elc_ent_expo/) for a few more minutes

7min to go!

[dark7angel]

^I'll be watching there too!!! :cool:

2min to go!!!! :D

[Darkwoodsoftime]

ok here we go :) 1 minture

[dark7angel]

AND IT'S LIVE!!! Halo is opening, I wonder when will be TR's turn...

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Meeeh, first Halo 4 =/

[Darkwoodsoftime]

am i the only one who Hates Halo ? :p

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Cortana is so badass XD

I WANT TOMB RAIDER!!!!!

[dark7angel]

I hope TR is not the last...

[Darkwoodsoftime]

now this is the Same as Conviction :/

[LARALOVERnr.1]

^
I know right??? It really shares the same elements!

And am I the only one who thinks every EA sports game is the same?

[LC is Me]

Meeeh, first Halo 4 =/

I was laughing at how much it looked like the Metroid Prime games.

I hope Tomb Raider comes soon.

[LARALOVERnr.1]

^
I don't have time to discuss this now, but I disagree :p

[Darkwoodsoftime]

TOUCHDOOOWN ! :lol:

here's fable now

[dark7angel]

C'mon! I just want to watch TR!!!

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Patience my friend, patience. They probably saved the best for last :D

[dark7angel]

I know, I know! But it's a little frustrating having to sit through this guy talking about the voice function on Xbox and what not when I don't even own that console, so I couldn't care less!!! XD

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Lol, I do have an Xbox but I don't live in the USA, so I couldn't care less about this either XD

So I think we agree; This guy needs to shut up and move on :lol:

[Darkwoodsoftime]

He's talking too much now :rolleyes: Cmon

[LadyRufina]

Lol, I do have an Xbox but I don't live in the USA, so I couldn't care less about this either XD

So I think we agree; This guy needs to shut up and move on :lol:

Ikr! They're going on about how accessible they are but only in America it seems :rolleyes: I hope TR comes up soon...

[dark7angel]

So Karl said on twitter he'll give us a 5 min warning as to when we're due to come up.

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Yay, more talking about sports and whatnot -_-

[dark7angel]

Yay, more talking about sports and whatnot -_-

I know, right?! -_-

[LARALOVERnr.1]

^
Can you please say when Karl posts a new tweet? I don't have twitter :(

[dark7angel]

^Sure thing!

[Darkwoodsoftime]

Enough with Sports and KINECT :mad2:

Nike partnership with Xbox ... :D lol who knew

[dark7angel]

Karl just posted on twitter: 5 minute warning @tombraider fans

[LARALOVERnr.1]

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG :D:D:D

Thanks for sharing :)

[Darkwoodsoftime]

Season finale "lat" night , meh :lol:

[LARALOVERnr.1]

^
Ikr???? I have season 2 here already for weeks, and in the USA the season finale was last night? :lol:

[LARALOVERnr.1]

ITS OOOOOOON!!!!!

[dark7angel]

OMG!!!! IT'S TR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[adobeARTIST]

IT'S HERE!!!

[Darkwoodsoftime]

OMG !

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Well that was short -_-

[Madenice]

NOOOEEEESSS!!! "first Xbox only" !! Damn you!!!:mad2: :nut:

[gsusfrk]

Wow!

[Abdullah10]

Well that was short -_-

:mad2: short short short

[LadyRufina]

Can someone give me a link to the GT Spike TV thing for TR but on some site that my tablet will play it on? The GT TV video thing doesn't work on my tablet... BTW it was AMAZING!!! [nd dw it said it was coming to Xbox FIRST. Not that it was an Xbox exclusive.

[dark7angel]

IT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I just didn't like the DLC exclusivity...)

[Darkwoodsoftime]

Xbox Exclusive DLC ?! now this is just NOT COOL :|

[LARALOVERnr.1]

And I hate that they announce DLC before the game is even here...

The gameplay looked awesome though. I hope we get to see more throughout this E3 :D

[Madenice]

I'm watching this : http://uk.ign.com/events/e3/2012/live-video

But I just missed TR except for the part that it's only for xbox the demo or something :( What was the rest? The trailer we've already seen or? I don't get it, I thought it would be tomorrow? Was this an intro to watch tomorrow?

[dark7angel]

The gameplay looked awesome though. I hope we get to see more throughout this E3 :D

I know, right!!! I LOVED it!!!!!!!!!! And for some reason her voiced sounded a lot better to me than it did in the trailer!!!

[Shaikh]

WOW. The demo looks amazing. Never thought it can be this EPIC. :D

[LadyRufina]

I know, right!!! I LOVED it!!!!!!!!!! And for some reason her voiced sounded a lot better to me than it did in the trailer!!!

Yeah the VA sounds fantastic in this! I don't think it's too short as it showed everything I need to know gameplay-wise right now. They packed a lot in for such a small amount of time. Thanks CD!!!

[LARALOVERnr.1]

I just read a new demo will premiere right after the briefing! I hope it's a different one :D

[adobeARTIST]

Demo was amazing!! I especially loved the parachuting. And are we all agreed now? Baow & arrow >> guns? :)

NOOOEEEESSS!!! "first Xbox only" !! Damn you!!!:mad2: :nut:

whoa whoa whoa, relaxe people relaaaaaaaaaxe....

they said "FIRST on Xbox 360". That just means it comes earlier on 360, everybody else gets it later. Most likely just a month. Put the pitchforks down now :p;)

[d1n0_xD]

[I missed it :( Woah, adobe,thanks for clearing that up, I just had a mini heart-attack XD

[dark7angel]

Demo was amazing!! I especially loved the parachuting. And are we all agreed now? Baow & arrow >> guns? :)

whoa whoa whoa, relaxe people relaaaaaaaaaxe....

they said "FIRST on Xbox 360". That just means it comes earlier on 360, everybody else gets it later. Most likely just a month. Put the pitchforks down now :p;)

I loved the parachuting part as well!!!! Very cool!!!! And I'm totally in LOVE with bow & arrow!!!

[Madenice]

whoa whoa whoa, relaxe people relaaaaaaaaaxe....

they said "FIRST on Xbox 360". That just means it comes earlier on 360, everybody else gets it later. Most likely just a month. Put the pitchforks down now :p;)

Hehe, yeah but was it about a demo or about DLC, I just don't see the point with a demo and everyone here said DLC, so I'm confused :P Sweet of you you're trying to put the calm in the thread xD :)

[dark7angel]

For those who missed it, you can rewind Gametrailers to watch it again! http://www.gametrailers.com/netstorage/e3/live.html

[hiropon056]

I missed it omg D:
i hope it will appear on youtube or whatever anytime :(

[Madenice]

For those who missed it, you can rewind Gametrailers to watch it again! http://www.gametrailers.com/netstorage/e3/live.html

Thank you!!! :P 01:52 peeps!! :D

Btw, that South Park game was funny!!

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Btw, where was Karl? Isn't he the one who does presentations and stuff?

[adobeARTIST]

Btw, where was Karl? Isn't he the one who does presentations and stuff?

He'll be covering the CD segment that follows the MS media show.

[LARALOVERnr.1]

That's gonna be live as well? :D

[adobeARTIST]

Hehe, yeah but was it about a demo or about DLC, I just don't see the point with a demo and everyone here said DLC, so I'm confused :P Sweet of you you're trying to put the calm in the thread xD :)

Do you remember what happened during the TRU exclusive DLC, that stayed exclusive? Things got nasty ugly in the forums. We really don't want to see a repeat that here :nut:

[Madenice]

Btw, where was Karl? Isn't he the one who does presentations and stuff?

My question too, but isn't there another presentation tomorrow?
Maybe then he will be on ;)

[dark7angel]

And a youtube video with the E3 footage, courtesy of PSG: E3:2012 NEW TOMB RAIDER FOOTAGE LOOKS ABSOLUTELY STUNNING (http://playstationgang.com/e32012-new-tomb-raider-footage-looks-absolutely-stunning/)

[Madenice]

Do you remember what happened during the TRU exclusive DLC, that stayed exclusive? Things got nasty ugly in the forums. We really don't want to see a repeat that here :nut:

I know that! :P "Listens again" A-ha! I get it :p I thought I heard first "demo", but he didn't say that! It was indeed "First piece of downloadable content".
So YES, I DO get the stress around here!! :) Sight, finally I'm up to date, I think :)

[dark7angel]

Another youtube video, this one is complete (the one I posted before had a cut in the beginning!) - U7UX2MJq6Tk

[gsusfrk]

^ Start a new thread for those who don't know! :D

[d1n0_xD]

Thank you, dark7angel :D Cool thing about the rewinding :D

Aw, man, aw, man, aw, man :D SHE IS SO BADASS! I think this is the final in the coffin to the statement that's she's not like she used to be... And it's true, she's even better now! Kudos to level designers, some really effective ways of getting rid of the enemy... And the combat system with bow and arrow is legen... wait for it... DARY! :D And, man, she can take a punch :D I would be a goner after that parachuting :D CD, I love you :3 <3

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Aha! At 2:02, when she walks over the body, if you watch closely, you can see a blue 'X' appear, indicating it is possible to do something with the bodies of slain enemies. You can also see a crossed knife and arrow, so perhaps it has something to do with weapons or supplies?

[Abdullah10]

Another youtube video, this one is complete (the one I posted before had a cut in the beginning!) - U7UX2MJq6Tk

she is brutal:thumb:

[d1n0_xD]

Aha! At 2:02, when she walks over the body, if you watch closely, you can see a blue 'X' appear, indicating it is possible to do something with the bodies of slain enemies. You can also see a crossed knife and arrow, so perhaps it has something to do with weapons or supplies?

I think you're right, man :D Man, I just can't believe how surprised I am, I never dreamed it would be this cool :D

[dark7angel]

^You welcome, d1n0! :D
Did you see how she stabbed that guy!?!?! It was so freaking awesome!!!!

My question too, but isn't there another presentation tomorrow?
Maybe then he will be on ;)

I think today Karl will be at GTTV. This is what he twitted:

..then it's straight over to the GT studio to sit with @geoffkeighley to talk a bit more about @tombraider, and do a live demo!! #TRE32012

As for tomorrow, on IGN's E3 live-video page (http://uk.ign.com/events/e3/2012/live-video), they have Tomb Raider tomorrow at 2pm PST (10pm GMT)

[Madenice]

http://www.tombnews.com/news/2012/06/0401/ ;) #exciting everything :P

[Darkwoodsoftime]

Only 10 More Months :D

[Madenice]

Guys, I just have to say this, I'm really glad to be here at this community! Everyone is so positive about Lara and the game, just wonderful :) You give a home to the heart :) to a Lara heart :D :) :p

[LadyRufina]

Guys, I just have to say this, I'm really glad to be here at this community! Everyone is so positive about Lara and the game, just wonderful :) You give a home to the heart :) to a Lara heart :D :) :p

:cheek: I love this community too!

[d1n0_xD]

^You welcome, d1n0! :D
Did you see how she stabbed that guy!?!?! It was so freaking awesome!

Yes, that's why I think there should be no "Lara isn't hardcore anymore" comments on the forum, she's more hardcore than she's ever been, IMO, and yet you can see that she's sometimes struggling :D And when she grabbed that parachute, woohoo :D Haha, the moments when she realises that the window is cracking and that she's gonna fall was hillarious to me XD Her face expression was priceless :D And she's BEAUTIFUL! :D

[Madenice]

:cheek: I love this community too!

:group_hug:

[Madenice]

Yes, that's why I think there should be no "Lara isn't hardcore anymore" comments on the forum, she's more hardcore than she's ever been, IMO, and yet you can see that she's sometimes struggling :D And when she grabbed that parachute, woohoo :D Haha, the moments when she realises that the window is cracking and that she's gonna fall was hillarious to me XD Her face expression was priceless :D And she's BEAUTIFUL! :D
It was indeed, so awesome and beautiful!! :)

[dark7angel]

Yes, that's why I think there should be no "Lara isn't hardcore anymore" comments on the forum, she's more hardcore than she's ever been, IMO, and yet you can see that she's sometimes struggling :D And when she grabbed that parachute, woohoo :D Haha, the moments when she realises that the window is cracking and that she's gonna fall was hillarious to me XD Her face expression was priceless :D And she's BEAUTIFUL! :D

My thoughts exactly!!!!! :D This gameplay video totally showed how badass this Lara can be!!!

[LadyRufina]

Yes, that's why I think there should be no "Lara isn't hardcore anymore" comments on the forum, she's more hardcore than she's ever been, IMO, and yet you can see that she's sometimes struggling :D And when she grabbed that parachute, woohoo :D Haha, the moments when she realises that the window is cracking and that she's gonna fall was hillarious to me XD Her face expression was priceless :D And she's BEAUTIFUL! :D

Same! And I was also so surprised by how different she looks from the gameplay trailer. She looks a lot better - a lot more like old Lara as well but obviously younger. She also looks 21 unlike the trailer where she looked about 15...

[d1n0_xD]

And I love all the destructible environments, you can't really take a break :D But when that guy had to reload at the begining and she rushed to push him over the edge, that was awesome :D

[adobeARTIST]

:cheek: I love this community too!

:group_hug::friends::wave:

[d1n0_xD]

And she wields a goddamn shotgun like a pro! Sorry for the spam, guys, I'm just watching the video over and over again noticing these little details :D She uses her pickaxe to rope-slide :eek: That's it, this made me fall in love with Lara all over again!! CD, thank you so much!!! :')

[Shaikh]

Only 10 More Months :D

9 months and 1 day man. :D

[Jurre]

Okay I just saw the E3 video - that was a-ma-zing. friggin' amazing - and that is coming from an old cynic. I love the enviroment traps she activates to kill people, I love her setting people on fire or shove a pickaxe up their brain.
I love the stealth and the parachute gameplay - the screaming was not excessive !

That part about the xbox - that didn't happen...

This is really shaping up to be the triple-A action adventure game that Tomb Raider always deserved to be. They must be crying now at NaughtyDog...

[Madenice]

I think the spam is necessary here! We're just overloaded with awesomeness!!! :D You've got it get it out! :D :p That pick-axe + rope sliding was indeed awesome!

[d1n0_xD]

WEEEEE :D Okay, what's (and when) next? I just saw Karl putting a picture of his blog saying that they are preparing for a "chat" with GameTrailers playing the demo :D

[Driber]

I think the spam is necessary here! We're just overloaded with awesomeness!!! :D

heh, nothing wrong with a bit of rapid fire posts during big and exiting events like these, folks. I love seeing everyone so pumped up and happy :)

As long as it all stays in this dedicated E3 discussion thread, feel free to go nuts in here this week, hehe :D

[ChewyKokoro]

hair looks kinda stiff

[LaraRocks2]

http://www.gamezone.com/products/tomb-raider/news/xbox-360-to-get-tomb-raider-dlc-early AGAIN?! Why does CD favor Microsoft so much??? >.< this isn't what I was expecting to hear!

[LadyRufina]

http://www.gamezone.com/products/tomb-raider/news/xbox-360-to-get-tomb-raider-dlc-early AGAIN?! Why does CD favor Microsoft so much??? >.< this isn't what I was expecting to hear!

Look at the "Congrats CD/Eidos/Square" thread and then look at my post. It's the most likely explanation as to why Xbox are getting it earlier.

[TranceTrouble]

awesome stuff i found some HD video's on IGN and GT will post links in the first post of The TIMES thread as we speak so stay tuned!!

oh yeah they will appear here!! (http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=118337#6thwave)

if you found any great articles that are not yet listed there give me a PM or just post in here ;)

[Darkwoodsoftime]

guys if anyone Said new Lara isn't HardCore Enough Just Show'em This :D

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1117/642012115040pm.png

That Blood ...... It's Beautiful :nut::lol:

http://www.gamezone.com/products/tom...ider-dlc-early AGAIN?! Why does CD favor Microsoft so much??? >.< this isn't what I was expecting to hear!

Well the Good Part is , we'll be able to play the DLC , just not on Day 1 . Sure i was also Shocked at First But it's not really a big Deal ... Is it ? :)

[d1n0_xD]

Noticed this in the demo and it was so funny, and someone made a gif :D

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m53v6lWlSv1rqrdpso1_500.gif
(another proof Lara is... well, Lara :D )

About the DLC (I don't have sound, so I don't what has been said), is it, like, another mission or 2? Or they just announced a DLC? :D

And I noticed that, at the beginning, when Lara takes out those 2 guys, the 3rd one flips the table for cover. Smart AI,perhaps? :D

[mugenkb1]

The gameplay looks AMAZING!!!! The only gripe I have for is is that the reticule is fixed, so you have to move Lara in order to aim at the enemies, which take you out of cover. Perfect example is 2:22 of the youtube video, she could have stayed out of the line of fire if we were able to move the reticule upwards. Oh well, but the gameplay, it's to die for. :D

About the timed xbox DLC exclusivity crap...eh, just seems to me microsoft is bribing developers for an earlier DLC release, so people can buy it on xbox. I'm disappointed to since I have a PS3, but as long as it isn't exclusive to the xbox forever.

[LadyRufina]

Noticed this in the demo and it was so funny, and someone made a gif :D

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m53v6lWlSv1rqrdpso1_500.gif

About the DLC (I don't have sound, so I don't what has been said), is it, like, another mission or 2? Or they just announced a DLC? :D

:lol: @ that gif. They didn't say anything about DLC - all they said was that Xbox will get it earlier than PC/PS3.

I really think that necklace has something to do with why she can take a bullet to the brain...

[mugenkb1]

guys if anyone Said new Lara isn't HardCore Enough Just Show'em This :D

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1117/642012115040pm.png

That Blood ...... It's Beautiful :nut::lol:



Well the Good Part is , we'll be able to play the DLC , just not on Day 1 . Sure i was also Shocked at First But it's not really a big Deal ... Is it ? :)

HELL YEAH, is that bad ass enough for those naysayers about Lara not being badass enough?

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Did anyone else she she used an arrow to stab that guy? Or is it just me?

And d1n0; LOL :lol:

[Madenice]

heh, nothing wrong with a bit of rapid fire posts during big and exiting events like these, folks. I love seeing everyone so pumped up and happy :)

As long as it all stays in this dedicated E3 discussion thread, feel free to go nuts in here this week, hehe :D

Exactly what I was thinking :D

Yeaah Lara Badass!!! Boom - Headshot! Not hurt at all! :nut: :D XD

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Karl is on!!

[adobeARTIST]

Karl is on!!

Finally!! :D

[Madenice]

Noes! My bf wants to game online !!! XD He wants me to wait with watching, na-haa!! xD

edit: That was nice :)

[d1n0_xD]

Karl? Where? :eek:

[LadyRufina]

Karl said that 1 or 2 people may have guessed it! It is soooooo Tamzin Merchant!!

[Madenice]

Karl? Where? :eek:

http://www.gametrailers.com/netstorage/e3/live.html rewind sweety! :) 4:07:00:P

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Phew, that was quite the amount of new info! I kept playing the live stream, turning the sound up whenever I went away so I could hear when cool stuff was on. Now that Carl has done his say, I suppose we won't be seeing anything untill tomorrow right?

Guess I'll be watching tomorrow at 11PM GMT+1 then :D

Thanks guys for chatting, I had a blast!

[wonderpho]

I changed my patns 3 times :D Wow it exceeded my expectations. It's nice to see destructible cover. lol@ .49, the guy freaked out and bumped onto the table.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/04/e3-2012-tomb-raider-demo-shown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhgzqgGZ5kA&feature=player_embedded

[LadyRufina]

Wait, so is there definitely going to be more demos tomorrow or will it just be the same demo without cutting to the studio?

[Madenice]

Now that Carl has done his say, I suppose we won't be seeing anything untill tomorrow right?

Guess I'll be watching tomorrow at 11PM GMT+1 then :D

Thanks guys for chatting, I had a blast!
I guess so :) I'll be of to game as well :p

Goodnight :D xD

[Madenice]

Wait, so is there definitely going to be more demos tomorrow or will it just be the same demo without cutting to the studio?

I guess we can answer this tomorrow ;)
I don't really know ;)

[dark7angel]

Wait, so is there definitely going to be more demos tomorrow or will it just be the same demo without cutting to the studio?

I don't know if it's new footage or the same, all I know is that TR will be showcased again tomorrow. :cool:

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Wait, so is there definitely going to be more demos tomorrow or will it just be the same demo without cutting to the studio?
I guess it's the demo that played in the background while Karl was talking, perhaps a bit longer and with sound. Or maybe it's an extended version of the first demo. Or maybe it's something completely new (I'd LOVE to see some gameplay from inside the pagoda :D

Who knows, they've shown a lot from the Crossroads trailer, maybe they'll show everything :D

And yes, it's definite. I can't remember the PST time, but the GMT+1 time is 11PM ;)

@Madenice
Good night to you too! :)

[kalle90]

What?!

Ok I guess I can put my fear of Lara being a complete wuss aside. But what was that gameplay video about? It was a simple corridor/covershooter segment with Lara vs thugs. Hide in cover, observe, aim, fire - just like in a million other games these days.

Now someone will come to tell that it's just a small showcase video, and by god I hope that's true. We still haven't seen anything that hints the game is open world (despite this video being from "later parts in the game") nor much of tomb raiding.

[TranceTrouble]

I changed my patns 3 times :D Wow it exceeded my expectations. It's nice to see destructible cover. lol@ .49, the guy freaked out and bumped onto the table.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/04/e3-2012-tomb-raider-demo-shown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhgzqgGZ5kA&feature=player_embedded


yeah it was indeed great, added that article to the Times thread :)

[LaraRocks2]

Well the Good Part is , we'll be able to play the DLC , just not on Day 1 . Sure i was also Shocked at First But it's not really a big Deal ... Is it ? :)
very good point, I re read the article and listened to the conference.. I missed out on the "First access" I thought it was EXCLUSIVE to X-box in general. Whew. Almost had a mini-heart attack. lol This game looks amazingggggg Definitely loving the new direction for Miss Croft and I love how she is a complete bad ass killer. She didn't even think twice when she stabbed that guy! o.O so this is how she turns into the cold hearted killer in other games. haha (in that she kills 800 mercenaries and animals, and doesn't think twice about it)

[LARALOVERnr.1]

What?!

Ok I guess I can put my fear of Lara being a complete wuss aside. But what was that gameplay video about? It was a simple corridor/covershooter segment with Lara vs thugs. Hide in cover, observe, aim, fire - just like in a million other games these days.

Now someone will come to tell that it's just a small showcase video, and by god I hope that's true. We still haven't seen anything that hints the game is open world (despite this video being from "later parts in the game") nor much of tomb raiding.
Yes, I am going to tell you this is just a small part. And it's not that much later into the game, it's between the part where she's hanging upside down (E3 2011) and the wolf's den demo.

I hope we'll see more about the exploring possibilities of the island later in the game :D

[d1n0_xD]

Damn, I forgot I have no sound XD Loved the gameplay in the background though, there was an achievement called "Woman vs Wild" or something like that and the experience system :D Can anyone tell what was Karl talking about? Please? :D

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/7582720_4794.jpg

[d1n0_xD]

I changed my patns 3 times :D Wow it exceeded my expectations. It's nice to see destructible cover. lol@ .49, the guy freaked out and bumped onto the table.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/04/e3-2012-tomb-raider-demo-shown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhgzqgGZ5kA&feature=player_embedded


I don't think he bumped on the table, he flipped it for cover :D

[Madenice]

I guess it's the demo that played in the background while Karl was talking, perhaps a bit longer and with sound. Or maybe it's an extended version of the first demo. Or maybe it's something completely new (I'd LOVE to see some gameplay from inside the pagoda :D

Who knows, they've shown a lot from the Crossroads trailer, maybe they'll show everything :D

And yes, it's definite. I can't remember the PST time, but the GMT+1 time is 11PM ;)

@Madenice
Good night to you too! :)
Thinking the same thing over here :p Thank you :D

[dark7angel]

And here is the youtube video of the interview with Karl on Spike/GTTV showcasing the second demo:

9Jfr3ooCpgA

[LadyRufina]

I just love the way she moves. It's so realistic and the gameplay is so slick and seamless. CD are really outdoing themselves so far imo...

[Darkwoodsoftime]

^^ thank you for posting the Video!

She's Shivering .... i Can't watch ! xD

Can anyone tell what was Karl talking about? Please?

Nothing new .. (or i didn't listen ?! :D )
he's just saying she tries to survive , she's 21 :D straight outa College xD
oh , and they'll announce the Voice actress soon . he talks about weaponry . she starts with a bow , bla bla and she meet other survivors ... i didn't find any new info

---
man, If i see that Interviewer in the Street .. i Swear I'll punch him

[wonderpho]

Just added 2nd gameplay footage :)

[a big house]

I'm surprised that they didn't see the third guy drop off the cliff :L

[LadyRufina]

Damn, I forgot I have no sound XD Loved the gameplay in the background though, there was an achievement called "Woman vs Wild" or something like that and the experience system :D Can anyone tell what was Karl talking about? Please? :D

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/7582720_4794.jpg

Karl basically went over a lot of what he's said before[mainly how she grows strength throughout the game. He said that Lara is scared and unsure about 1/3 of the game. He went over the hubs and how they're very open and is where she can craft new abilities to unlock new spaces. Then he went to the voice and said that she just finished her whole script a couple of weeks ago and that she'll be announced soon and said that one or two people have guessed who it is correctly. Then he went onto the bow saying how it's her first weapon. Then he went on about how iin the past games Lara went around the world but didn't interact with anybody so we didn't see her personality so she's been thrust into this situation with other survivors so we see the different sides of her personality and then said about the deer that it's her first time so she's not very good with the bow (probably hinting that we need to upgrade her skills to make the bow more powerful) and then finished with what platforms they're selling it on (PC, PS3 and Xbox- obviously). The rest isn't worth mentioning as we've heard it all before many times.

[d1n0_xD]

Thank you very much guys, I appreciate it :D I hope it's you that guessed who the voice-actress is, LadyR :D

[TranceTrouble]

Just added 2nd gameplay footage :)

i think yours cut in just after a few seconds ;) below is the full one i think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9Jfr3ooCpgA
(Posted by dark7angel in the E3-2012 thread)

i would also like to let you know that i will be merging this thread to the E3 2012 thread soon. i'll leave a redirect so you can find it back ;)

[LadyRufina]

Thank you very much guys, I appreciate it :D I hope it's you that guessed who the voice-actress is, LadyR :D

Believe me, so do I! How embarrassing would it be if it didn't turn out to be Tamzin and I haven't shut up about how I guessed it first. Oh, the shame! :lol:

[TranceTrouble]

thanks for the video Dark7angels and thanks for the quick summary LadyRuffina :D

[Ivana KC]

Oh, wow, graphics looks awesome! Her voice is still awful, but I like what I saw! Looks like Lara really managed to get a shotgun into her hands, after all. Also, parachutes are quite popular in today's games. I'm not complaining, though, parachute part was my favorite!

And I also noticed that Lara wasn't very, how do I say it, touched(?) when she killed all those people (if you know what I mean). Maybe her survival instinct finally woke up, because that is Lara how I wanted to see her. I hope that, now when we saw the aiming system, we will see more close combat scenes.

[LC is Me]

Loved the demo, but I thought it was silly to announce DLC when they hadn't finished the game yet LOL.

[wonderpho]

i think yours cut in just after a few seconds ;) below is the full one i think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9Jfr3ooCpgA
(Posted by dark7angel in the E3-2012 thread)

i would also like to let you know that i will be merging this thread to the E3 2012 thread soon. i'll leave a redirect so you can find it back ;)

That is a different one that I was about to post :)

[Yaphy]

I didn't really like what I saw. It looked good and all but It was not really what I would expect from Tomb Raider. I know that it's a reboot but I really hope that the game is 95% platform and puzzles and 5% combat. But from this showcase I didn't get that feeling at all. How many guys did Lara kill in just three minutes? This is sadly not what i'm looking for.

[TranceTrouble]

HQ video is up with interview with Karl and in more in gameplay you can watch it here (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-tomb-raider/730987) on GT. :D

[MetalJosh18]

This game is looking amazing!! I absolutely love it:) The Demo was awesome and the combat and everything looks so nice and she moves and reacts to pain so realistically. Also her hair looks so much better than in the Crossroads trailer. I mean it's not perfect yet but it's getting there:) I also love her voice, I don't have a problem with it hahaha:P

[TranceTrouble]

damn that is an awesome piece of video dark7angel i love it :D

[dark7angel]

^Indeed it is!!!

I actually think that the "Crossroads" trailer didn't do justice to the actual gameplay footage we are now watching! These look really awesome!!! And somewhat more intense than the trailer! And I find that her voice sounds so much better!!!

[TranceTrouble]

^Indeed it is!!!

I actually think that the "Crossroads" trailer didn't do justice to the actual gameplay footage we are now watching! These look really awesome!!!

i totally have to agree with you crossroads was good but this is giving me goosebumps :D :thumb:

[Locoman42]

I personally saw some "puzzle" bits in the trailer, but not in a big way. I thought of the baddies as a puzzle and the way they should be solved (killed). Like she could go in there an shoot it up OR shoot the guy off the ledge (strategic, can get another kill off without being shot at). The same with the gas/oil and the lamp. Faster, quicker and different ways to get rid of them without getting hurt. Same with the barrels: you could shoot the barrels or not. You could jump up for an advantage or miss it and go under. This is the way I saw it. Figurin out the best way to get through: that is the puzzle. Dont think I'm against the old fashioned puzzles. I DO want the puzzles like in the beginning but my idea of a puzzle is broad.
So, what is your idea of a puzzle? Did what I describe before seem like a puzzle?
(I AM NOT trying to say anybody is wrong. This is my opinion and if anybody thinks I am lashing out to be right, I'm sorry. Just my thoughts.)

[d1n0_xD]

And I also noticed that Lara wasn't very, how do I say it, touched(?) when she killed all those people (if you know what I mean). Maybe her survival instinct finally woke up, because that is Lara how I wanted to see her. I hope that, now when we saw the aiming system, we will see more close combat scenes.

Well, I guess that was the part that comes later on, she's already good with the bow and killing those men became a routine...

I just found this on youtube - Tomb Raider - E3 2012 Broll:

-uRv1362ews

Wow, this is awesome, thank you, dark7angel :D That headbutt was awesome XD

[dark7angel]

^You welcome! :D

I was surprised when I found it on youtube, I wasn't expecting more stuff today! But damn, I'm glad I found it 'cause it looks really awesome! And I loved the beginning, we get a little snippet of the Island's history!!! So cool!!!

[TranceTrouble]

the lost kingdom, guess we have found our supernatural forces :D

[d1n0_xD]

I personally saw some "puzzle" bits in the trailer, but not in a big way. I thought of the baddies as a puzzle and the way they should be solved (killed). Like she could go in there an shoot it up OR shoot the guy off the ledge (strategic, can get another kill off without being shot at). The same with the gas/oil and the lamp. Faster, quicker and different ways to get rid of them without getting hurt. Same with the barrels: you could shoot the barrels or not. You could jump up for an advantage or miss it and go under. This is the way I saw it. Figurin out the best way to get through: that is the puzzle. Dont think I'm against the old fashioned puzzles. I DO want the puzzles like in the beginning but my idea of a puzzle is broad.
So, what is your idea of a puzzle? Did what I describe before seem like a puzzle?
(I AM NOT trying to say anybody is wrong. This is my opinion and if anybody thinks I am lashing out to be right, I'm sorry. Just my thoughts.)

Yes, I agree, those were puzzles to some extent and I loved them :D It gives a much wider set of approaching the enemy and using the environments to your advantage :D I still expect big puzzles and contraptions like that elevator thingy we saw last year :D

And I loved the beginning, we get a little snippet of the Island's history!!!

Bummer, I have no sound, so I have no clue what they were talking about XD

[LadyRufina]

Yes, I agree, those were puzzles to some extent and I loved them :D It gives a much wider set of approaching the enemy and using the environments to your advantage :D I still expect big puzzles and contraptions like that elevator thingy we saw last year :D



Bummer, I have no sound, so I have no clue what they were talking about XD

They were talking about a 2nd - 3rd century Japanese or possibly Chinese shaman queen called "Himiko" (I think that's how you spell it). I've heard of her before when I was researching ancient Chinese and Japanese history and how they interweave with each other at certain points. Apparently she was a really testy queen but there isn't very much known about her that's conrete - just that she was very powerful for a woman at her time. It looks to Lara and Dr. Whitman as though they worship Himiko as some kind of goddess though. Dr. Whitman compares finding this "lost city" to finding Atlantis but Lara is skeptical and that's when the Russians come. Lara keeps telling Whitman to keep his gun up as they shouldn't trust them but Whitman puts it down anyway. Then they get Lara and Whitman tells her to "go along with it." I wonder what they did with Whitman. Something tells me that they overheard his conversation and think he'll be a valuable asset and try and get informtion out of him...

Just the fact that Himiko was some kind of Shaman Queen shows a lot about the inhabitants of the Island.

[d1n0_xD]

Thank you, LadyR, for describing it in detail, I really appreciate it ^^ This is getting interesting :D Maybe that necklase actually belongs to the queen :eek:
And that girl which was taken away by the bald dude in the trailer is her college friend? :D

[adobeARTIST]

Can't see the video. Set to private :(

[LadyRufina]

Thank you, LadyR, for describing it in detail, I really appreciate it ^^ This is getting interesting :D Maybe that necklase actually belongs to the queen :eek:
And that girl which was taken away by the bald dude in the trailer is her college friend? :D

:eek: OH MY GOD!! You might be onto something! Maybe the reason why that man said we've waited so long about Sam is because they think she's a reincarnation of Himiko! Or maybe that necklace suggests that it belonged to Himiko and they thought that Lara was Himiko. This opens up so many options... And i'm 99% sure that Sam is Lara's Uni friend because she looks just like the girl standing next to Lara in Uni grad robes in the picture inside her cabin door in the Turning point trailer.

[adobeARTIST]

Clips of Tomb Raider can be seen in Sony's opening montage. A sign of something for the show itself?

[TaLLa]

Epic presentation. Done everything right preordering the game. Okay I would have preordered it anyway xD.

I am realy courios about the next presentation tomorrow. Now we saw the new fighting experiences. To be honest the action was the biggest problem in the franchise, especialy in the crystal dynamics era. It seems that they understood this and changed the whole thing. It also contains a lot more gore. It feels much more adult than ever.

The grafics are beautiful, never imagined that they would be this good. If they can keep a perfect mix between this action, stealth and adventure it will be the best Tomb Raider ever and easy conquer the throne. It's like the TR that Angel of Darkness wanted to be and it makes everything right that AoD didn't.

Laras voice is a bit unfamiliar but I'm fine with it.

[Metalrocks]

to many pages to read. so much i have missed.

good thing the videos were all linked, so i could catch up. parachuting looked cool. looking forward to it. but i dint see any health meter. please dont tell me she has regenerating health. please please please tell me its not true :(
and why is this broll video set to private???

the combat looks really gory. damn woman, spearing that guy in to the head was just awesome :D. im glad to see you have different options to kill them by using the environment.

now we know that its a walkie talkie and how she gets her bow. but looks like she has unlimited ammo for the bow. even when i could swear i saw a ammo count in the right upper corner but dint descend wile she was shooting arrows.

and why in the hell will xbox people get DLC first. :mad: . unless we pc people get it included with the CE.

anyway. looks all good. waiting for more.

btw. that part where she falls down in to the trees after the parachuting. the way she fell on that branch, her rips would have been broken. try to keep these parts a realistic please.

[Andrashi]

Hello Crystal Dynamics,

I lurk on this forum from time to time since the new Tomb Raider really is intriguing. However, after Your E3 presentation, the need to share feelings is quite strong, so why not to register.

Congratulations, the show was neat and chosen demo part of the gameplay shows another important side of the project (action).

Destructible terrain is an awesome touch, it nicely breaks the stale-gameplay of nowadays cover based TPS games. Ability to use and to combine various items (set arrow on fire, let environmental hazards to the job for Lara, push the enemy off the cliff) is phenomenal and suits this style of the game.

And usage of parachute (was it the second one which opened?) is a nice way to end the demo footage ^_^.

However, here comes some dark side.

In countless dev diaries and interviews, the new Lara is portrayed as a quite average teen girl/young lady, with strong interest in archeology.

The question is - would such a human being run and jump fearlessly straight ahead into the rain of bullets from automatic weapon gunfire and with cold blood and amazing precision shot the enemy?

bottom line of the point - can it be please added that Lara at least "somehow" reacts on close range passing gunfire? In the game Mafia II, devteam used a few blending animsets (aniamtion sets) to make player character shake or sway head, lean away from cover shattered debris, grit teeth and perform other quite natural looking combat reactions. Such a feature in my opinion really helps with immersion.




The new Lara is more than often portrayed as a fragile human being. If so, why does she not react to bullet wounds? The lack of reactions totally breaks immersion and degrades Lara into "yet another generic TPS action hero(ine)".

While I get this is a modern TPS standard (player must be the Terminator or else the game is supposed to be boring), it is also something the new Tomb Raider could use to differentiate from its competition.

bottom line of the point - can it be please added that Lara reacts on gunfire wounds? Please, at least on harder difficultes.




The final dark side point is aimed at close combat mechanics. If Lara tried to ambush her enemy the way she did while the enemy reloads her/his submachine gun, the scenario would probably went like this -

empty gun's butt forcefully shoved right into Lara's face (broken nose, bleeding, disorientation), followed by barrel swing smash to the cheek of that silly girl. Finished by a few full body weight stomps on her head.

Again, I get this "dumb close combat A.I." is a modern TPS standard. And again this is something Tomb Radier game could use to look different, at least on higher difficulties. Can you imagine if the enemy tried to attack Lara, QTE popped for a fraction of a second and only if the player succeeded, the cliff throw would occur. If player failed the QTE, enemy would manage to butt smash Lara and the combat would continue either as a close combat ecounter or with the enemy trying to run away to finish reloading the gun.

bottom line of the point - can it please be added that at least on harder difficulties enemies really fight for their lives in close combat situations?


Thank you for reading ^_^

[MaxRaider]

^Indeed it is!!!

I actually think that the "Crossroads" trailer didn't do justice to the actual gameplay footage we are now watching! These look really awesome!!! And somewhat more intense than the trailer! And I find that her voice sounds so much better!!!

Agreed.

[Metalrocks]

Hello Crystal Dynamics,

I lurk on this forum from time to time since the new Tomb Raider really is intriguing. However, after Your E3 presentation, the need to share feelings is quite strong, so why not to register.

Congratulations, the show was neat and chosen demo part of the gameplay shows another important side of the project (action).

Destructible terrain is an awesome touch, it nicely breaks the stale-gameplay of nowadays cover based TPS games. Ability to use and to combine various items (set arrow on fire, let environmental hazards to the job for Lara, push the enemy off the cliff) is phenomenal and suits this style of the game.

And usage of parachute (was it the second one which opened?) is a nice way to end the demo footage ^_^.

However, here comes some dark side.

In countless dev diaries and interviews, the new Lara is portrayed as a quite average teen girl/young lady, with strong interest in archeology.

The question is - would such a human being run and jump fearlessly straight ahead into the rain of bullets from automatic weapon gunfire and with cold blood and amazing precision shot the enemy?

bottom line of the point - can it be please added that Lara at least "somehow" reacts on close range passing gunfire? In the game Mafia II, devteam used a few blending animsets (aniamtion sets) to make player character shake or sway head, lean away from cover shattered debris, grit teeth and perform other quite natural looking combat reactions. Such a feature in my opinion really helps with immersion.




The new Lara is more than often portrayed as a fragile human being. If so, why does she not react to bullet wounds? The lack of reactions totally breaks immersion and degrades Lara into "yet another generic TPS action hero(ine)".

While I get this is a modern TPS standard (player must be the Terminator or else the game is supposed to be boring), it is also something the new Tomb Raider could use to differentiate from its competition.

bottom line of the point - can it be please added that Lara reacts on gunfire wounds? Please, at least on harder difficultes.




The final dark side point is aimed at close combat mechanics. If Lara tried to ambush her enemy the way she did while the enemy reloads her/his submachine gun, the scenario would probably went like this -

empty gun's butt forcefully shoved right into Lara's face (broken nose, bleeding, disorientation), followed by barrel swing smash to the cheek of that silly girl. Finished by a few full body weight stomps on her head.

Again, I get this "dumb close combat A.I." is a modern TPS standard. And again this is something Tomb Radier game could use to look different, at least on higher difficulties. Can you imagine if the enemy tried to attack Lara, QTE popped for a fraction of a second and only if the player succeeded, the cliff throw would occur. If player failed the QTE, enemy would manage to butt smash Lara and the combat would continue either as a close combat ecounter or with the enemy trying to run away to finish reloading the gun.

bottom line of the point - can it please be added that at least on harder difficulties enemies really fight for their lives in close combat situations?


Thank you for reading ^_^

first. welcome to the forum :)

good points there. i was also wondering why this guy dint bother to fight her instead of reloading his gun.
maybe its still a early stage, so this can change till next year.

[Shaikh]

What a huge honor! Via @IGN: "Tomb Raider was unquestionably the highlight of the Microsoft Press Conference:" http://t.co/jrOuPmkL

Great to know. Tomb Raider owns E3 2012. :D

And CoD: Black Ops II is the biggest loser. :p :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Shaikh]

One hell of an E3. Tomb Raider demos was EPIC. Wondered not to see Hitman: Absolution at Press Conference! But I think UBISOFT steals the overall show by those epic trailers and demos from Assassin's Creed III, Far Cry 3 & Splinter Cell: Black List. :)

[Quolli]

My thoughts on the new E3 gameplay preview:

- Very shooty shooty, not enough jumpy jumpy.

- I wanted to see animal enemies :(

- Finally a game where I can manipulate the environment. Loved the bit where Lara shot the lantern down and it exploded.

- Fire arrows!? Noice. Can't wait to try them out in tombs.

- Lara's awfully quick with that ice pick isn't she? She can virtually whip it out to slide on ropes in about 0.1 of second.

- Voice acting is still a bit mixed. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's a bit forced. A large improvement from the Crossroads trailer though.

- Ponytail is (slightly) better! Hooray!

- Yuck, I hope we get other guns. I want to ditch the shotgun (personal preference. I find shotguns too slow, both in fire rate and reload times)

- Where do Lara's arrows come from? IGN's version is a bit blurry (or it may be due to the "dynamic" camera that loves to have splotchy bits of dirt/water on it)

- QTE's return but are more like the ones in TRU.


All in all, a much more satisfying preview of TR9 then the Crossroads trailer.

[TranceTrouble]

i like to inform you guys that the video early provided by Dark7angel was actually leaked footage so the mods couldn't allow it longer to be posted on the forums.

Please be patient and it will get released through the proper channels ones the time is there ;)

[adobeARTIST]

“Sorry, Master Chief, but the lovely Lara stole the Microsoft Press Briefing…and our hearts.”

- E3*2012: Microsoft Press Conference — 5 Biggest Winners & Losers [Link (http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/05/e3-2012-microsoft-press-conference-5-biggest-winners-losers)]

IGN named Tomb Raider the winner of the Xbox: Entertainment Evolved press*briefing! The top placement is a huge honor, especially considering the industry-driving peers who showcased content alongside us.*

For the record, Master Chief’s return gave me chills. ;)

We’re off to a stellar start for the show!



I'm a Halo fan myself, but damn bloody right, Tomb Raider was the crowning feature of the MS media show :D:D

[chriss99]

Now 360 has its own Uncharted :D
This can become the game of the year. Seriously!

[Metalrocks]

wow. number 1. not bad. :)

[dark7angel]

i like to inform you guys that the video early provided by Dark7angel was actually leaked footage so the mods couldn't allow it longer to be posted on the forums.

Please be patient and it will get released through the proper channels ones the time is there ;)

^Really!?? Sorry I posted, I had no idea it was leaked!!! :(

[TranceTrouble]

^Really!?? Sorry I posted, I had no idea it was leaked!!! :(

no worries i myself didnt now it till this morning ;)

[d1n0_xD]

:eek: OH MY GOD!! You might be onto something! Maybe the reason why that man said we've waited so long about Sam is because they think she's a reincarnation of Himiko! Or maybe that necklace suggests that it belonged to Himiko and they thought that Lara was Himiko. This opens up so many options... And i'm 99% sure that Sam is Lara's Uni friend because she looks just like the girl standing next to Lara in Uni grad robes in the picture inside her cabin door in the Turning point trailer.

Yeah, last night when I went to sleep, the thought of them thinking Himiko will reincarnate into Lara came to my mind. Maybe she does eventually :eek: Like, Lara in the middle, and you see a projection, kinda like a ghost of Himiko all around Lara which is 10 feet taller and she gives you awesome powers... Or Himiko is the final boss, and the necklace gives you her tremendous powers.... Hmmm, Himiko, friend or foe? :D



In countless dev diaries and interviews, the new Lara is portrayed as a quite average teen girl/young lady, with strong interest in archeology.

The question is - would such a human being run and jump fearlessly straight ahead into the rain of bullets from automatic weapon gunfire and with cold blood and amazing precision shot the enemy?

bottom line of the point - can it be please added that Lara at least "somehow" reacts on close range passing gunfire? In the game Mafia II, devteam used a few blending animsets (aniamtion sets) to make player character shake or sway head, lean away from cover shattered debris, grit teeth and perform other quite natural looking combat reactions. Such a feature in my opinion really helps with immersion.




The new Lara is more than often portrayed as a fragile human being. If so, why does she not react to bullet wounds? The lack of reactions totally breaks immersion and degrades Lara into "yet another generic TPS action hero(ine)".

While I get this is a modern TPS standard (player must be the Terminator or else the game is supposed to be boring), it is also something the new Tomb Raider could use to differentiate from its competition.

bottom line of the point - can it be please added that Lara reacts on gunfire wounds? Please, at least on harder difficultes.




The final dark side point is aimed at close combat mechanics. If Lara tried to ambush her enemy the way she did while the enemy reloads her/his submachine gun, the scenario would probably went like this -

empty gun's butt forcefully shoved right into Lara's face (broken nose, bleeding, disorientation), followed by barrel swing smash to the cheek of that silly girl. Finished by a few full body weight stomps on her head.

Again, I get this "dumb close combat A.I." is a modern TPS standard. And again this is something Tomb Radier game could use to look different, at least on higher difficulties. Can you imagine if the enemy tried to attack Lara, QTE popped for a fraction of a second and only if the player succeeded, the cliff throw would occur. If player failed the QTE, enemy would manage to butt smash Lara and the combat would continue either as a close combat ecounter or with the enemy trying to run away to finish reloading the gun.

bottom line of the point - can it please be added that at least on harder difficulties enemies really fight for their lives in close combat situations?


Thank you for reading ^_^

Well, I think the answer to your first question is that Lara becomes much more experienced later on in the game (which I think the demo is from) and she just tackles an enemy without fear. And I think there were some animations, when she got hit by a bullet, she staggered, but there was non-stop action, so we couldn't see whether she would react to the wounds when the action settles down... At the end, we see her tired and looking at the mountain, and I think she held her stomach or something, but that's just a cutscene, we'll see :D
As for the last one, I don't know, I thought it was cool, the enemy relied on the rifle, when it was out of ammo, Lara quickly rushed towards him and pushed him, he was panicky, two of his mates dead in a second, he's out of bullets and death is running towards him :D

[dark7angel]

^I seriously hope that all those theories you and LadyR are coming up with about the necklace being a source of mystical powers do NOT turn out to be true! I really don't like the idea of Lara wielding mystical artifacts that give her powers (like in the LAU trilogy).

[kalle90]

- Very shooty shooty, not enough jumpy jumpy

This. It seemed so much like a generic TPS, not anything like the previous Tomb Raiders. The demo should have been titled "Action showcase".

Looks like I can give up on my hope for 90% adventure-exploration game with 10% shooting. Unless Lara killed the entire mercenary gang during that demo scene and there are no more human enemies later on.

[TranceTrouble]

This. It seemed so much like a generic TPS, not anything like the previous Tomb Raiders. The demo should have been titled "Action showcase".

Looks like I can give up on my hope for 90% adventure-exploration game with 10% shooting. Unless Lara killed the entire mercenary gang during that demo scene and there are no more human enemies later on.

if you listen to the first E3 podcast you can hear that they speak about the linearity of what they have shown so far, have a listen ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=M0QhNrV-e70#t=373s

[Metalrocks]

This. It seemed so much like a generic TPS, not anything like the previous Tomb Raiders. The demo should have been titled "Action showcase".

Looks like I can give up on my hope for 90% adventure-exploration game with 10% shooting. Unless Lara killed the entire mercenary gang during that demo scene and there are no more human enemies later on.

i also hope it will be more 90% adventure. we really do see more shooting but i hope that will not be the case in the final product.
maybe this was a story part were you are forced to fight but once its done, you can focus on other things which doesnt involve shooting.
like in AC. you have your objectives were you have to kill people like crazy but once completed, you can do what ever you want without fighting.

remember the latest podcast? he said that it depends what you do but that 10hours is the goal. what i understand out of this is, that we can walk/do what ever we want on this island. and if i think about it, we have to hunt to eat, etc to survive.
how can you do this wile you are shooting people at that time?

now i see that trancetrouble was quicker then me :p

[kalle90]

if you listen to the first E3 podcast you can hear that they speak about the linearity of what they have shown so far, have a listen ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=M0QhNrV-e70#t=373s

Sounds good, but unfortunately they offer nothing but ask me to trust them. So many times my trust has been misplaced with these game marketing people, Mass Effect 3 being the latest absolute disaster, that I can't be nothing but skeptical. I believe when I see it.

[TranceTrouble]

Sounds good, but unfortunately they offer nothing but ask me to trust them. So many times my trust has been misplaced with these game marketing people, Mass Effect 3 being the latest absolute disaster, that I can't be nothing but skeptical. I believe when I see it.

i can understand what you mean,

but i think that is the only thing they actually can do, ask us to trust them, they are still 9 months away from release date and should keep some surprises for just before the launch in my opinion ;)

[TranceTrouble]

Have you seen, the 12 minutes during, behind the game interview Karl has given to GameTrailers yet??
check it out here!! (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-tomb-raider/730802)

[dark7angel]

^I didn't!!!! D: Thanks for sharing!!! Watching it now!!!! :D

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Here's a working link to the b-roll gameplay:
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When was this thing shown? It's awesome! :D

[Driber]

It wasn't; that's leaked footage. Please do not post it for now. Thanks.

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Oh, that explains a lot XD Sorry

[Driber]

np :)

[Metalrocks]

dint see either but now i did. interesting one. im glad they focus also on the play time. i hate it when a game is really short that after 4-6 hours its done. 10+ is always a good thing that you spend a long time playing it.
and the best part is, that they listen to the community. not every company does that.

[Metalrocks]

Sounds good, but unfortunately they offer nothing but ask me to trust them. So many times my trust has been misplaced with these game marketing people, Mass Effect 3 being the latest absolute disaster, that I can't be nothing but skeptical. I believe when I see it.

tell me about it. but bioware is also run by the greedy company €A. this alone tells many people why ME3 is a disaster.

CD on the other hand. they seem to care about this game. they listen to the community and also consider our view if they think it will the game better then before.
so im not to worried about them at the moment. otherwise they woulndt have postponed the game till march.

[sierra xb]

i am a bit behind on seeing the new info coming out, but i just saw the parachute sequence demo and all i can say is....OMG!!!!!!!!! march can't get here fast enough :D

This game is going to be sooooooooooooo awesome!!! Great job, Crystal :D

[dark7angel]

TR nominated by IGN for BEST OVERALL GAME (+ 5 more nominations) (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/06/05/igns-best-of-e3-2012-awards)

[LARALOVERnr.1]

just 3 more hours untill the next TR showchase :D

[Shaikh]

TR nominated by IGN for BEST OVERALL GAME (+ 5 more nominations) (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/06/05/igns-best-of-e3-2012-awards)

I want Watch Dog to get all the awards. I was literally blown away after watching that demo. In those category which they couldn't make their name, should go to Assassin's Creed III and then Tomb Raider. :) Didn't see The Last of Us though. ;)

[adobeARTIST]

@IGN nominates #TombRaider for six "Best of E3 2012" awards! http://t.co/e3LoKGox

YYYYYYYYESSS!! Go Lara GOOOOOOO :D:D:D

:gamer::gamer::gamer:

[adobeARTIST]

TR nominated by IGN for BEST OVERALL GAME (+ 5 more nominations) (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/06/05/igns-best-of-e3-2012-awards)

Saw that in Meagan's tweet (posted here). And I'll say it again....

YYYYYYYYESSSSSS!!!!! Go Lara GOOOOOOOO!!!

:D:D:D :gamer::gamer::gamer:

So now that the conferences are done, will there be any more TR coverage on the show floor? With Spike/GTTV or G4 maybe? Just can NOT get enough at this point :) :) :gamer::gamer:

[Madenice]

just 3 more hours untill the next TR showchase :D

remember I said we wouldn't sleep at night..
Well..

I'm having an intake meeting tomorrow for my internship :nut: :lmao:
I guess I will not getting my eyes closed!! :nut:

[Priscillia]

Are you keeping up with the #TombRaider blog? New screens, concept art, and show floor photos are in abundance! http://t.co/hcauw3Gn

Always checking it dear ^^ !! Thanks for the update anyway, awesome artworks you posted there :D

[adobeARTIST]

just 3 more hours untill the next TR showchase :D

Where's thatr going to be? Spike/GTTV, G4, or somewhere else?

[adobeARTIST]

Are you keeping up with the #TombRaider blog? New screens, concept art, and show floor photos are in abundance! http://t.co/hcauw3Gn

Really really love this one. It really captures Lara being on her own in a harsh and unforgiving environment. It speaks of isolation and despair.

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[LARALOVERnr.1]

@Madenice
Well, that sucks XD

@adobeARTIST
I'm gonna try Spike :)

[TranceTrouble]

Where's thatr going to be? Spike/GTTV, G4, or somewhere else?


i quote Meagan:
Tune into @IGN Live ( http://t.co/6QuJj13f ) and @G4tv ( http://t.co/GW7CwPu1 ) later this afternoon for another look at Tomb Raider!

so guess we know where to go now ;)

[adobeARTIST]

^^ just no exact time, huh? :)

[LadyRufina]

Vote for TR. It's winning so far with 32%!!!
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/05/30/igns-e3-2012-peoples-choice-awards?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

[Locoman42]

Yeah, Im so confused xD I just watched an hour of stuff on SpikeTV thinking that Tomb Raider would be on >.< Nope... dangit.
So for this new demo or whatever it will be on IGN? and what time exactly :/
Sorry its just there isn't enough information in the OP/etc

[LARALOVERnr.1]

@adobeARTIST
Well, it starts at PST 2PM, GMT+1 11PM, but I think it was another one of those long presentations where people show off multiple games, so it could be then or 1,5 hours after XP

@Locoman
It won't be on for at least 1 hour and 15 minutes, so you tuned in too early :)

[Priscillia]

I just checked the demo that has being shown at E3, and I found it so far from the trailer we discovered few days ago !!! What a (great) surprise !!
I must admit I was quite worried about the game when I saw the trailer (because this was not what I expected actually), but this demo here is just so EPIC !! I love it and I hope we'll see it in France at Japan Expo ^^ The place where the demo takes place is so wonderful !
Thank you so much for sharing the video with us, now I really want to see more and I'm expecting the game more than ever ;)

[Locoman42]

I get it now >.< Thanks :)
EDIT: Wait so it will be on SpikeTV o.O Or just the two links you posted...

[LARALOVERnr.1]

@LadyRufina
43% now :D

@Locoman
It should be on Spike as well, but if you want to be 100% sure I'd watch one of the links Meagan posted. Imma watch it on Spike, since I prefer that channel and the other ones are slow for me :) Up untill now, Spike has shown everything every other channel has.

[adobeARTIST]

Vote for TR. It's winning so far with 32%!!!
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/05/30/igns-e3-2012-peoples-choice-awards?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Voted. And dominating now with 42% :D

[Locoman42]

IM not positive if its gonna be on spike. Im gonna double check the schedule on my tv. It seems my whole time zone is off xD xD I'm so confused. My tv schedule on G4TV says that the show starts in 14 minutes... at 3pm (Oklahoma time..). but I can't watch it on G4 anyway >.< Im not gonna pay for that channel. Online it is if I can't find it on Spike :)
EDIT: Spike ends its E3 coverage at 3pm for me... 13 minutes. So I don't think its gonna be shown on SpikeTV (unless all my tv channels are ****ed up xD)

[TranceTrouble]

just voted as well go go Tomb Raider :p

[LARALOVERnr.1]

People, IT IS NOT ON SPIKE!

The IGN thingie link shows some old TR gameplay now, will it switch to the livestream at 2PM PST?

[MetalJosh18]

Voted. And dominating now with 42% :D
Now at 60%:)

[TranceTrouble]

now showing AC3 live!!
so 45 min till Tomb Raider comes one.

[adobeARTIST]

People, IT IS NOT ON SPIKE!

The IGN thingie link shows some old TR gameplay now, will it switch to the livestream at 2PM PST?

OK. I have G4 on my TV and IGN stream on PC. I am NOT missing this :gamer:

[LadyRufina]

now showing AC3 live!!
so 45 min till Tomb Raider comes one.

Wait what is this on bcos GT is off...

[TranceTrouble]

Wait what is this on bcos GT is off...

http://uk.ign.com/events/e3/2012/live-video

splintercell just started 30min till TR, just curious if they bring out new info:)

[LadyRufina]

http://uk.ign.com/events/e3/2012/live-video

splintercell just started 30min till TR :)

Damn my tablet won't play it. I'm looking for an IGN youtube live stream but there doesn't seem to be one. They usually do a live stream for these things don't they?

[Madenice]

okay, good to know it's just about 30min away :)

Damn my tablet won't play it. I'm looking for an IGN youtube live stream but there doesn't seem to be one. They usually do a live stream for these things don't they?

I'm afraid there isn't one, if you can't find it :(

btw, seen this: http://www.tombnews.com/news/2012/06/0501/ ?

[TranceTrouble]

yes exclusive demo they say lets see it :D

edit: this stream goes up when TR will start! maybe this works
http://e3.gamespot.com/live-show-2/live-show-day-1/

[Madenice]

20 minutes lefT!!!! EXCITING XD :P

[adobeARTIST]

IGN has TR beginning in a couple of minutes!!!! :D :D

[Madenice]

yush yush, we are waitinnggg!!!:P

[adobeARTIST]

whoa, G4 also announced having Tomb Raider coming next. Is G4 and IGN gonna have it on at the same time?? :scratch::scratch:

[LARALOVERnr.1]

How long?

[TranceTrouble]

4min left

[Madenice]

Dance central is terrible at promoting... xD just a few minutes :D

whoa, G4 also announced having Tomb Raider coming next. Is G4 and IGN gonna have it on at the same time?? :scratch::scratch:

Not sure, I haven't seen G4

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Where are you guys watching it online?

[Madenice]

Where are you guys watching it online?

The link you gave from Meagan, http://uk.ign.com/events/e3/2012/live-video :p

It's taking too long!!!! xD

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Thank youuuuu! Just in time :D

[Ivana KC]

Watch people, watch! Finally, I'm not missing anything!

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Aaaaw, it's really laggy for me :(

[Ivana KC]

:lol::lol:

'Happy birthday, let's have a beer!' :lol:

[Madenice]

that was cool! :) Too bad it was laggy for you Laralover ;)

I guess it wasn't what I expected, but it was nice :)
And Karl, Happyy Birthday@!! :P

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Guess it's over now :P I'll rewatch all the goodies tomorrow (including new sexy RE6 gameplay :D). Good night guys!

[TranceTrouble]

ahh that was some nice footage i like the waterfalls and the colors in the woods. And we know something more about the xp system now ;)

[Madenice]

Good night! It's indeed bedtime! xD

[LARALOVERnr.1]

@Madenice
Yeah, IGN's website always has issues when I'm watching from my PC. Normal pages also take a loooooooooooooooong time to load =/ Ah wel, I saw most of what was happening and the sound worked fine, so yay :) And there's always youtube

[TranceTrouble]

good night Laralover and Madenice :)

when they post the video on there website i will post it in the times :D

[dark7angel]

Geez!!! I had to run home 'cause I went to my aunt's house and I arrived just in time to watch it!!! God, I'm tired!!! XD

So it was the same demo from yesterday's GTTV Post-E3 thing but we got to see much more!!! :D Loved it!

[Locoman42]

Wow i really liked the tiny demo xD I did like the many different pathways in the hunting area and it looks like there were many ways to explore along the pathways. One thing I did not like was... when they pulled away from the demo to talk xD I was like I DONT CARE i wanna SEE THE GAME! Haha
Hunting seems a little weird... not sure if it will work out for me. I did notice Lara using the arrow tip as a "knife" to cut open the deer for meat. :D I STILL wanna know how she got the radio... and the placement of the arrows... way to organized. I mean two spots like at the edge of the river. wtf? Lol. If i was a scavenger and saw those I wouldn't leave the dead guy hanging with his bow and leave arrows nearby. I would have taken both! Arrows are useful no matter what... I meant hey must be hard to make so why leave them? Some things bugged me but other than that I loved it :D Im gonna have to stop spoiling myself and save some for when i play on March 5 :P

[adobeARTIST]

That. Was. Ecstastic!!! :D :D

So in depth now with what we saw. I see the bow does come with an arrow counter each time she fires, so the days of infinite ammo really are done away with. And the whole moment of Lara killing and carving the deer was so visceral.

Also love how the environment is its own living breathing entity. And as I said before, seeing Lara shiver in the cold, the tone of her voice over the talkie... CD has really crafted a character that we as the player can form an empathic connection with.

BRAVO!!!!! :thumb::thumb::thumb:

Oh and there's more to come on G4 coverage is starting NOW, (5:16 EST)

[LARALOVERnr.1]

By everyone! And GG to you too, Madenice and TranceTrouble ;)

[LadyRufina]

**** this piece of ******* ****! My tablet is being a complete *****. I cannot. I seriously cannot. It's getting returned at the crack of dawn tomorrow.

[LARALOVERnr.1]

^Sorry you missed it LadyRufina! :(

And thanks CD and SE for making this E3 the best I've had in years :D:D:D First time I've actually followed everything live, and I must say, IT WAS FREAKING AWESOME!!!! :D

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Omg, I totally missed my 4000th post XD

[LadyRufina]

^Sorry you missed it LadyRufina! :(

And thanks CD and SE for making this E3 the best I've had in years :D:D:D First time I've actually followed everything live, and I must say, IT WAS FREAKING AWESOME!!!! :D

I'm not worried that I missed the live feed seeing as they'll upload to Youtube withing an hour (hopefully). It's just this heap of junk! £380?! You're having a laugh... I've had to turn it on and off 3 times for it to load one webpage. It's supposed to be as fast a high end laptop - fast as a high end latop my arse. Do they even take things like this back because of poor performance? I'm still under warranty...

[adobeARTIST]

Interesting stuff with the G4 segment. Karl was comparing Lara's reboot to Batman's, and how the way Christopher Nolan had this build up for the first quarter of the movie, that by the time Wayne put on the mask for the first time, it has real meaning and impact. And that's what he's going for with Lara, how he wants to depict her journey to being the adventurer.

[Jurre]

Congratulations, Karl and Crystal D for an excellent presentation :thumb:

[d1n0_xD]

Waaaaa, I missed it XD Well, I'll see it tomorrow :D I love the comments so far, it really seems that you guys like the "multi-paths" in the game :D Hope this game gives everyone what they need ^^

[dark7angel]

Someone just posted this on another forum:

Just found this!!! At E3!!!



OMG!!!!

And here it is, IGN has posted the video: IGN Live: Tomb Raider Demo - E3 2012 (http://uk.ign.com/videos/2012/06/05/ign-live-tomb-raider-demo-e3-2012)

EDIT: And it's also on youtube:

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[d1n0_xD]

OMG, is that a frigging statue??? And it's a nice statue, she has a beautiful face there :D

And, man, I wanted to cry when I saw her shivering like that :eek: Poor Lara... But the gameplay is so awesome, there's a whole forest to explore ^^ Loved that part at the end, seems like some kind of a tomb to me :p Thanks, dark7angel ^^

If you ask me, this is enough footage... Maybe a little bit of this and that until the game is released, but what I wanna see instead of game footage are sessions with the voice-actress, mo-cap sessions and stuff like that :D

[dark7angel]

You welcome! :D

I really loved this gameplay segment! Some quiet exploration, with some great atmosphere! I really wanted to see the following 10 minutes Karl mentioned!!!

So more TR stuff at E3 that we'll get:

Tomorrow, June 6: Interview on VG247.com (http://www.vg247.com/2012/06/03/vg247-at-e3-2012-whats-happening-and-when/)

Thursday, June 7: GameSpot.com Stage Demo (http://e3.gamespot.com/live-show/live-show-day-3/) & Machinima.com Stage Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkPgOI_kYpk)


Going to bed now! This has been an exciting E3!!! Can't wait for the rest of it!!! :D

[adobeARTIST]

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Check out our cool new E3 business cards! They are transparent plastic and sorta feel like collectors items! :)

That is absolutely the most stunning business card I have ever seen :thumb::thumb:

Now if only the light refraction wasn't obscuring the number ;) :p

[angebd0625]

I know E3 is not over yet but I am just curious about more Tomb Raider demos. I have only seen 2 from the 2012 conference and I'm hoping we will get more. There are really short and I'm hoping to get to see something longer. Does anyone know if there will be any more Tomb Raider Demos?

[Metalrocks]

thanks for the vid. good to hear that you have so much freedom and are not forced to go right away to the next objective. i always like looking around and find stuff.
also good to hear you have always a map to look at. was always helpful in AC. lol

looks really amazing. cant wait for the final product. why is march so far away :(

[Shaikh]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m54sz2RxKL1qkq7tbo1_500.jpg

Check out our cool new E3 business cards! They are transparent plastic and sorta feel like collectors items! :)

EPIC business card. Never seen any better one before. :D :thumb: What is that middle icon means? :confused: There should be a DLC icon to make this card more ironic. :p

[Driber]

I know E3 is not over yet but I am just curious about more Tomb Raider demos. I have only seen 2 from the 2012 conference and I'm hoping we will get more. There are really short and I'm hoping to get to see something longer. Does anyone know if there will be any more Tomb Raider Demos?

Keep your eye on this thread or The Times news thread (sticky thread at the top of the forum index) and you'll find out in either of these places!

Vote for TR. It's winning so far with 32%!!!
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/05/30/igns-e3-2012-peoples-choice-awards?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Voted!

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Go Tomb Raider, go!!!

Geez!!! I had to run home 'cause I went to my aunt's house and I arrived just in time to watch it!!! God, I'm tired!!! XD

I love your devotion! :D :thumb:

[kalle90]

Now that looked a lot better. Still a bit bothered by so much intereference with all the short cutscenes and linearity but apparently it's just in the beginning.

[d1n0_xD]

^ Linearity? There's a whole forest to explore, you don't have to go back to camp when it tells you, I know I won't :D Can't wait to see how big these levels actually are :D

[TranceTrouble]

thank you dark7angel for posting those links added to the times :)

and that is one awesome statue :D

[kalle90]

Linearity as in a lot of the time there's a 2 meter wide canyon, followed by an open area that has a handful of narrow canyon routes.

I dunno, I expected something a bit more like Oblivion or Skyrim with open plains without piles of rocks as boundaries all around, with high mountains I can climb at will. Or like Arkham City with pretty much 360 degree freedom.

[dark7angel]

I love your devotion! :D :thumb:

I try, I try... :D

^ Linearity? There's a whole forest to explore, you don't have to go back to camp when it tells you, I know I won't :D Can't wait to see how big these levels actually are :D

And Karl said that this forest space was one of the smallest!! Just imagine what we will find later on in the game!!!! :eek: :D

thank you dark7angel for posting those links added to the times :)

and that is one awesome statue :D

You welcome! :D

And yeah, that statue is really awesome! I guess we can expect it to come out with a Collectors Edition!

[Metalrocks]

Linearity as in a lot of the time there's a 2 meter wide canyon, followed by an open area that has a handful of narrow canyon routes.

I dunno, I expected something a bit more like Oblivion or Skyrim with open plains without piles of rocks as boundaries all around, with high mountains I can climb at will. Or like Arkham City with pretty much 360 degree freedom.

i think there is more then we see now. of course they have to show what lara can do and other things which are more important for the E3. watching her just wondering around for hidden items would a spoiler and also not very interesting to watch.
he said in the video, that you can explore the island instead heading to the next objective. so from the sound of it, you have this kind of freedom as in deus ex HR.

[Andrashi]

While watching IGN live gameplay, there was mentioned an interesting feature of the game - lack of HUD in favor of immersive experience. Judging from this sentence "immersive experience" probably has a major impact on gamedesign.
If so, then allow me please to talk about one feature which keeps bugging me regarding today's TPS games.

In cutscenes and in non-action parts, characters often display fatigue, pain or discomfort. Similar in Tomb Raider 2013. Such a feature definitely helps with immersion.

However, the moment some action occurs or player wants the avatar to do some extensive movement (jumping, climbing), avatar seems to forget about the pain/discomfort and performs requested actions as if it wasn't in pain a moment ago. Sadly, also present in Tomb Raider 2013.

Such a bipolarity ("fragile human" in cutscenes/scruipted events, "sensless Terminator" in action sequences) greatly disrupts immersion. Often such a setting can lead to parodic feelings during cutscenes:

why is the avatar afraid of being shot in a cutscene, if during gameplay passage it can be shot without any visible reaction to bullet wounds? Why is the avatar expressing pain in cutscenes and scripted events, while during gameplay it is not affected by almost same circuumstances?

It would be really awesome is Tomb Raider 2013 project was able to free itself from this bipolarity. Together with added abilities of A.I to react on surrounding disturbances (two conversing guys woudl most definitely either see Lara with their peripheral vision or notice sound of flying arrow and death of their comrade), to really fight for their lives, and with proper aggressive behavior towards Lara (hardened islader with survival combat experience and a gun in hand wouldn't be strongly intimidated by a young girl with a bow) it would make this project really something unique and greatly add to the feeling of survival.

I would like to see this project outstand its potential competition by miles, and the only way I can help is to write this feedback while there is still at least some time for potential changes.
The game is supposed to be out in March 2013, that means active development will be probably terminated around November/December (I guess) as I think there has to be some time for Microsoft and Sony to evaluate and ratify the product.

[d1n0_xD]

^ It won't matter to me much, but that would be cool, just for the sake of immersion. We see her holding her waist or bullet wound sometimes, so I don't know if that's scripted or the game really follows what's going on with Lara.

[Shaikh]

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Want an extended look at the area teased in our “Crossroads” trailer? Check out 10 minutes of gameplay from IGN Live!*

09:40 OMG that music! :eek: Completely EPIC. Can't wait to hear the full soundtrack. :D Also the reveal of the composer. He is doing a magnificent job. :thumb:

[Metalrocks]

it sure would be more realistic but then lara would be crawling on the floor for the rest of the game.
also that part were she fell in to the trees and on that branch, her rips would be broken and she would be gasping for air of course.

but as dino said, lara is holding her wound were that spike speared her. but would be a good question to ask and lets see if they can answer it.

[Driber]

Hot from the press! The devs @ the LA Convention Center:

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[LARALOVERnr.1]

Are they leaving??? :(

[TranceTrouble]

nice picture guys have fun :D

[Driber]

lol don't worry, LL. Karl is augmented with his suitcase :lol:

[Metalrocks]

lol don't worry, LL. Karl is augmented with his suitcase :lol:

lol. maybe has already the final product of the game in it and was just lying to everyone that it will be finished in march :p

[LARALOVERnr.1]

@Driber
Haha, jokes on you, that was a rhetorical question :naughty:

But srsly, isn't it a bit weird they're leaving, keeping in mind that there are 2 more showchases coming up?

[Shaikh]

{pics}
One last treat for the night - an early look at our Lara Croft Play Arts Kai figure. It’s a beauty, right?*

Beauty? Its EPIC. :D There should be two pistols BTW. :whistle:

[TranceTrouble]

@Driber
Haha, jokes on you, that was a rhetorical question :naughty:

But srsly, isn't it a bit weird they're leaving, keeping in mind that there are 2 more showchases coming up?

lol what gives you the idea they are leaving? :p

[MetalJosh18]

I was watching the demo from Microsoft again and I noticed that she didn't have the shotgun on her back. So where does she get it from when she pulls it out and puts it away?! Something that needs fixing:whistle:

[LARALOVERnr.1]

^
Keep in mind that this is just the Alpha version of the game, the finished version is still miles away ^_^

[MetalJosh18]

^
Keep in mind that this is just the Alpha version of the game, the finished version is still miles away ^_^
True, but I just want to to be finished already, haha:)

[d1n0_xD]

Never had a problem with holding having 5 different weapons magically in your backpack or whatever in past TRs, won't have a problem now :p But I guess it's gonna be fixed, we need to tell them :D

[MetalJosh18]

^^But their goal is to make this game as realistic as possible...so that has to be part of it. Let's be honest the past TR games have not been realistic, but that was not important back then because they were fun games and really wasn't a problem or a concern.;)But to this game it is.:D At least for me it is:)

[d1n0_xD]

Yeah, I guess you're right ^^

[dark7angel]

I was watching the demo from Microsoft again and I noticed that she didn't have the shotgun on her back. So where does she get it from when she pulls it out and puts it away?! Something that needs fixing:whistle:

Not only the shotgun but the arrows too (I noticed this in the Deer Demo!)

But like LARALOVER said, the game is still in alpha, so this will most likely be fixed in the final version.

[Andrashi]

it sure would be more realistic but then lara would be crawling on the floor for the rest of the game.
My apologies for not fully explaining ideas. The idea is not to have absolutely realistic game. The idea is to not omit touches of realism in places where they can greatly add to the immersion. Presented action sequence was today gaming's standard TPS - silly scripted enemies who let themselves be killed in "cool" sequences, avatar not reacting on incoming gunfire, tons of totally random waist level covers, no kickback of weapons (is this inexperienced Lara really THAT strong so she almost does not move her arms when firing a shotgun?). The only major difference from "industry normal" was greater environment destructibility.

If the game is released in such a state, be 100% sure it will be refered as "Uncharted ripoff" or as "that game inferior to The Last of Us". And these are both scenarios I don't want to see, as I care for the Tomb Raider 2013 project.

but as dino said, lara is holding her wound were that spike speared her. but would be a good question to ask and lets see if they can answer it.
Yes, and that is perfectly in correlation with what I wrote. Why is she holding her wound? Why, if she can take a shotgun blast right in the face without any reaction, why is she so much concerned with some spike damage in her hip?

Please see that I don't care for presentation-purpose god mode, I care for the clear lack of any avatar's reaction to being shot by shotgun blast right in the face. Immersion totally broken right in that moment. If she can withstand that much without a flinch, then why is she so much bothered by a spike pierce in a hip? And more important, why should a human being with such abilities feel any fear or despair? And thus we shift from the much advertised "vulnerable Lara" to "typical indestructible action hero".



Dark7angel, I cannot say it for sure, but I assume this project is no longer in alpha phase if it is to be shipped in March 2013. And that is why I am quite afraid that all these changes I am trying to convey will fall on deaf Crystal Dynamics ears, as they probably won't want to change already designed mechanics. But still I want to at least try (as a true TR fan ^_^)

[dark7angel]

^Karl said in interviews that the game is currently in alpha stage. It can be played from start to finish and they will spent the next 8+ months polishing it.

[dark7angel]

The #TombRaider theater door is already adorned with a handful of nominations and awards! Congrats team! http://t.co/kcbknlAB

AWESOME!!!! :D Congrats CD!!!

[Andrashi]

That is some excellent news for me, dark7angel, as it can mean that the project is still not in a feature freeze. Now let's cross fingers devs will at least try out some of these ideas. Thank you very much.

[adobeARTIST]

I was watching the demo from Microsoft again and I noticed that she didn't have the shotgun on her back. So where does she get it from when she pulls it out and puts it away?! Something that needs fixing:whistle:

Not only the shotgun but the arrows too (I noticed this in the Deer Demo!)

But like LARALOVER said, the game is still in alpha, so this will most likely be fixed in the final version.

She keeps the shotgun and arrows in her pockets of course. This game (among other things like her traversal and combat abilities) will clearly get into the origins of Lara's transdimentional inventory techniques, which later on translates to how she fits an inordinate amount of gear in her backpack. It's Timelord technology I tells ya :rasp::lol::whistle:

[d1n0_xD]

Adobe explained it, case closed :p :lol:

[LARALOVERnr.1]

At what time will the stage demo's be shown?

[dark7angel]

^I honestly don't know...

By the way, here's a new interview with Darrell Gallagher:
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EDIT: Metro’s GameCentral Interview with Karl (http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/901066-tomb-raider-interview-remaking-lara).

[adobeARTIST]

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The TR theater door is already adorned with a handful of awards and nominations! Congrats team!


Game Informer: Best of Show Nominee
GamingXP: Best of E3*2012 Nominee
GamesRadar: MVG Nominee
OXM: MVG Nominee
OPM: MVG Nominee
Newsarama: Most Kick-ass Hero or Heroine Nominee
Newsarama: Best Jaw-dropping Moment Nominee
Games.cz: Best of E3*2012*


This truly is the day Lara reclaims her glory :D :D

[Driber]

Thought I'd share this here, too :)

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The E3 2012 show floor will open in just a few hours, but here’s a sneak peek at what Square Enix and Tomb Raider have to offer at the massive booth! Impressive, yes?

[Locoman42]

If only I had that as my wallpaper.... would beat what i have any day xD I wish I was at E3 to see all these wonderful exhibits >.< It seems like TR is getting the word out about this game :D Maybe finally somebody will know what I'm talking about when i go "My favorite game series so far is Tomb Raider". I usually get "Whats that??" "That big boob lady" but now (well for this game)ill get "OHHH that game looks awesome" "Wow she is such a badass" "Good choice that game is gonna be the best". Lol :lmao:

[Metalrocks]

^I honestly don't know...

By the way, here's a new interview with Darrell Gallagher:
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EDIT: Metro’s GameCentral Interview with Karl (http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/901066-tomb-raider-interview-remaking-lara).

nice interview. very informative :)

[Driber]

If only I had that as my wallpaper....

If you like big wallpapers, keep an eye on this forum. My spider senses are telling me that someone is about to show an incredibly huge (old) TR movie banner ;) :D

[TranceTrouble]

oeh that sounds awesome :D

[LadyRufina]

My apologies for not fully explaining ideas. The idea is not to have absolutely realistic game. The idea is to not omit touches of realism in places where they can greatly add to the immersion. Presented action sequence was today gaming's standard TPS - silly scripted enemies who let themselves be killed in "cool" sequences, avatar not reacting on incoming gunfire, tons of totally random waist level covers, no kickback of weapons (is this inexperienced Lara really THAT strong so she almost does not move her arms when firing a shotgun?). The only major difference from "industry normal" was greater environment destructibility.

If the game is released in such a state, be 100% sure it will be refered as "Uncharted ripoff" or as "that game inferior to The Last of Us". And these are both scenarios I don't want to see, as I care for the Tomb Raider 2013 project.


Yes, and that is perfectly in correlation with what I wrote. Why is she holding her wound? Why, if she can take a shotgun blast right in the face without any reaction, why is she so much concerned with some spike damage in her hip?

Please see that I don't care for presentation-purpose god mode, I care for the clear lack of any avatar's reaction to being shot by shotgun blast right in the face. Immersion totally broken right in that moment. If she can withstand that much without a flinch, then why is she so much bothered by a spike pierce in a hip? And more important, why should a human being with such abilities feel any fear or despair? And thus we shift from the much advertised "vulnerable Lara" to "typical indestructible action hero".



Dark7angel, I cannot say it for sure, but I assume this project is no longer in alpha phase if it is to be shipped in March 2013. And that is why I am quite afraid that all these changes I am trying to convey will fall on deaf Crystal Dynamics ears, as they probably won't want to change already designed mechanics. But still I want to at least try (as a true TR fan ^_^)

Hasn't anyone though about the fact that they're playing a stage demo and maybe they have set it so that Lara won't die in front of a massive audience so they won't have to restart? I'm pretty sure if Lara took that shot to the head when we are playing the game come release then she'll probably die.

[d1n0_xD]

^ Agreed :D Gotta admit, that was funny, though :D

[TranceTrouble]

hehe yes, Darrel also talked about that in his interview if Lara dies she can die brutal ways even when going down the river, parachute etc :p

[Metalrocks]

lol. havent thought about that actually. :rolleyes:
makes sense that she should not die that easily during the E3. i guess we all think it will be like this in the game.

[LadyRufina]

^ Agreed :D Gotta admit, that was funny, though :D

Yeah especially that gif :lol:

[chriss99]

I like Darrell. He's probably really tall! :D

[dark7angel]

Another interview with Karl:
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[Metalrocks]

thanks for the vid. nothing really new for me at least. we know already what steps they have taken to create this game.

[Driber]

A photo of 2 of the community ambassadors at the Square Enix booth at E3 - Katie from Katie's Tomb Raider Site together with Tom from Lara Croft Online :)

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[dark7angel]

Tomb Raider on GameSpot’s E3 Live Show (http://e3.gamespot.com/live-show/live-show-day-3/) (approximately 2:45 PM PST [10:45pm GMT]), as well as on the Machinima Stage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkPgOI_kYpk) (approximately 4:30 PM PST [12:30 GMT]) later today.

I'll probably watch the GameSpot's show, but Machinima's is a little late for me... will watch it tomorrow.


EDIT: Tomb Raider E3 Gameplay Demo on G4TV (http://www.g4tv.com/videos/58911/tomb-raider-e3-gameplay-demo/?quality=hd) (From Tuesday I think)

[TranceTrouble]

Tomb Raider on GameSpot’s E3 Live Show (http://e3.gamespot.com/live-show/live-show-day-3/) (approximately 2:45 PM PST [10:45pm GMT]), as well as on the Machinima Stage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkPgOI_kYpk) (approximately 4:30 PM PST [12:30 GMT]) later today.

I'll probably watch the GameSpot's show, but Machinima's is a little late for me... will watch it tomorrow.


EDIT: Tomb Raider E3 Gameplay Demo on G4TV (http://www.g4tv.com/videos/58911/tomb-raider-e3-gameplay-demo/?quality=hd) (From Tuesday I think)
thanks for posting that link to G4TV missed that interview will add it to the times thread!! :D:thumb:

[dark7angel]

^You welcome!!!

Gamespot is showing Star Wars right now. I believe Tomb Raider will be next. Live Stream Here (http://e3.gamespot.com/live-show/live-show-day-3/)

EDIT: Star Wars just finished! TR up next!!!! :D

[adobeARTIST]

Gamespot live stream is covering TR right NOW!!

squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :D :D :D

[TranceTrouble]

yes this is some live new footage, just before the already seen gameplay in the woods.

nice that she tries to contact Sam first and then Conrad those first few minutes were awesome :)

the footage just shown was the longest gameplay footage i seen so far awesome :D

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Yay, can't watch livestream on blackberry -_-

Can someone please post the link to the youtube vid when it's there?

[adobeARTIST]

I keep wondering what Lara's going to find on the vid camera? And the Skills menu design is brilliant :) This was a fantastic showing :D

oh and still watching, they're doing a tour of the toys and showed the Lara action figure.

[TranceTrouble]

that skill menu was really interesting, hopefully we can review it back when we get a video in a few hours. :)

[MaxRaider]

Oh wow! It looks better and better every new stage demo! I'm so excited! I just can't hide it! I love the look of the Play Arts figure too. So awesome. :lmao:

[LadyRufina]

yes this is some live new footage, just before the already seen gameplay in the woods.

nice that she tries to contact Sam first and then Conrad those first few minutes were awesome :)

the footage just shown was the longest gameplay footage i seen so far awesome :D

Footage from where? Is there a youtube link? My tablet won't play any other kind of video format.

[LARALOVERnr.1]

^
Still haven't returned it? :p

[Ivana KC]

I keep wondering what Lara's going to find on the vid camera? And the Skills menu design is brilliant :) This was a fantastic showing :D

oh and still watching, they're doing a tour of the toys and showed the Lara action figure.

What camera? There is a Skills menu??? What did I miss, is there a video?

[TranceTrouble]

it was in a live stream of GameSpot, hopefully they upload a video from the live footage soon so we can show you again!

Tomb Raider on GameSpot’s E3 Live Show (http://e3.gamespot.com/live-show/live-show-day-3/) (approximately 2:45 PM PST [10:45pm GMT]), as well as on the Machinima Stage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkPgOI_kYpk) (approximately 4:30 PM PST [12:30 GMT]) later today.


i quoted this from above the page to show you that their is still a Machinima Live Stage coming up. Might be the same footage, not sure! ;)

[LadyRufina]

^
Still haven't returned it? :p

It's actually not worth the effort.

[LadyRufina]

What camera? There is a Skills menu??? What did I miss, is there a video?

I found this on the TRF. I think this is what you mean. I have to say it looks very amazing!!!

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9065/menu6.jpg
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/5885/menu1d.jpg
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/8027/menu2gf.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2752/menu5e.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5262/menu3h.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3554/menu4e.jpg

[Ivana KC]

Found it on Gamespot! Thank you, LadyRufina! :)

[Ivana KC]

Sorry for double post but I don't want anyone to miss TR like I did.

Watch people, watch right now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkPgOI_kYpk

[Metalrocks]

so day 3 was the last day for CD to show TR? well, at least we got plenty of new infos about it. :)
well done CD. looking forward to the game.

[Shaikh]

Watched the Survivor Trail gameplay from Gamespot. Loved it. Lara falls on this video twice. :P

[TranceTrouble]

alright some new video's up from gamespot and Machinima like Ivana posted already:

Gamespot:
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Tomb Raider E3 2012 Stage Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ0qro-5JW0)

Tomb Raider - Survivors Trail Gameplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN2Y_ZqDz3Y)
Tomb Raider - Food Hunt Gameplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-m3U1BTpoQ)
Tomb Raider - New Friends Gameplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lv9_6Ote8E)


Machinima: (Tomb Raider Demo)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkPgOI_kYpk&feature=player_detailpage#t=24442s)

[d1n0_xD]

The game is beautiful, love to see her climbing ledges, reminded me of the first time playing Legend :3
I wonder if we can salvage arrows that we've already used like in Skyrim, for example, firing an arrow in to the ground and being able to pick it up again, or getting them from the deer that you killed :p Probably not, since you would have a big number of arrows XD


AW HELL YEAH, we can, using the upgrades, HELL YEAHHH!!! :D Oh, the happiness wooohohooo :D

This game becomes better with every new footage :D

[TranceTrouble]

The game is beautiful, love to see her climbing ledges, reminded me of the first time playing Legend :3
I wonder if we can salvage arrows that we've already used like in Skyrim, for example, firing an arrow in to the ground and being able to pick it up again, or getting them from the deer that you killed :p Probably not, since you would have a big number of arrows XD


AW HELL YEAH, we can, using the upgrades, HELL YEAHHH!!! :D Oh, the happiness wooohohooo :D

This game becomes better with every new footage :D


hehe they mention salvaging somewhere in one of the links i posted above the Machinima or YT video of Gamespot E3 demo.

was something like if you use the experience to buy the salvage upgrade that you can get your arrows back after you shot them,
i bet you can get a good amount of them then :D

[Darkwoodsoftime]

thx for the Videos Everyone ! they all look so Awesome , Basecamp :p beautiful ! http://www.naruto-kun.com/images/gallery/162/jiraiya27a.gif

9 Months ! only 9 months :D

[dark7angel]

Thanks for the videos!!! Pretty cool that GameSpot uploaded them without the commentary!

[kalle90]

I couldn't be more 50-50 on this. Scavengers sound awesome just like all the promise of there being more openess and secrets ahead.

But I still can't get my head around of this not being a complete reboot. Karl talks how this game is about younger Lara, but how do TRL and Chronicles young Lara bits fit in this, or is he only talking about the Crystal Dynamics Lara as if the Core games don't exist? To me this is all very contradictive. Lara was 16 when she went to Cambodia and got her backpack, and she didn't seem 1 bit nervous or weak.

EDIT:
Oh and Basecamp looks too techno. I was expecting for something more immersive instead of big text boxes that take over the entire screen. When you want to skill up you go sleep Oblivion-style. If we want to change gadgets we look at the bag (if there was one) classic TR style and set it up...

[adobeARTIST]

alright some new video's up from gamespot and Machinima like Ivana posted already:

Gamespot:
WQ0qro-5JW0
Tomb Raider E3 2012 Stage Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ0qro-5JW0)

Tomb Raider - Survivors Trail Gameplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN2Y_ZqDz3Y)
Tomb Raider - Food Hunt Gameplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-m3U1BTpoQ)
Tomb Raider - New Friends Gameplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lv9_6Ote8E)


Machinima: (Tomb Raider Demo)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkPgOI_kYpk&feature=player_detailpage#t=24442s)

Nice job aggregating all the video feeds there Trancy :) And like I said before with the Gamespot coverage, I love the menu, such a brilliant and engaging layout :thumb:

[dark7angel]

But I still can't get my head around of this not being a complete reboot. Karl talks how this game is about younger Lara, but how do TRL and Chronicles young Lara bits fit in this, or is he only talking about the Crystal Dynamics Lara as if the Core games don't exist? To me this is all very contradictive. Lara was 16 when she went to Cambodia and got her backpack, and she didn't seem 1 bit nervous or weak.


But this is a complete reboot!!! This Lara never went to Cambodia with Von Croy and none of the events from the past games happened or will happen.

[Metalrocks]

really looks beautiful. havent seen the friends video. good to have it without commentary for a change. this man just looks creepy and the way he talks. he just has bad guy written all over him. :p
why is march so far away?? :( :mad2:

[Ivana KC]

I don't know if it has been posted already but...

http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/06/07/ign-live-game-of-the-show-e3-2012

Looks like IGN picked Tomb Raider as game of the E3 2012! Isn't that awesome? :cool:

[TranceTrouble]

I don't know if it has been posted already but...

http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/06/07/ign-live-game-of-the-show-e3-2012

Looks like IGN picked Tomb Raider as game of the E3 2012! Isn't that awesome? :cool:

that is one awesome video yay Tomb Raider!! :D:flowers:

[Shaikh]

I found this on the TRF. I think this is what you mean. I have to say it looks very amazing!!!

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/8027/menu2gf.jpg




Advanced Looting! :eek: Lara Croft is going to be a pirate or a thief!! :p

[Jurre]

Advanced Looting! :eek: Lara Croft is going to be a pirate or a thief!! :p

Or a paleontologist (Bone collector) :D

[dark7angel]

I don't know if it has been posted already but...

http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/06/07/ign-live-game-of-the-show-e3-2012

Looks like IGN picked Tomb Raider as game of the E3 2012! Isn't that awesome? :cool:

Thanks for sharing, Ivana!

Great to see the team receiving the Game of Show award from IGN! They deserve it!!! There were really great games at this E3, so this is really awesome to see TR standing there with the big titles and rising above them!

And I LOVED Karl saying "Lara's BACK!" :cool:

[kalle90]

But this is a complete reboot!!! This Lara never went to Cambodia with Von Croy and none of the events from the past games happened or will happen.

Yet Karl talks like they wanted to show Lara's youth because we've seen what she will be later anyway.

[pidipidi39]

I loved this E3 but i think they showed too much of the game. Karl said that the gameplay time will be only 10-15 hours, so i think that one trailer and 3 demos showned in 4 days are too much. I want to see how is going to be the game, but i don't want spoilers ;)

[d1n0_xD]

I think they were no spoilers in the demos at all :D

[adobeARTIST]

Yet Karl talks like they wanted to show Lara's youth because we've seen what she will be later anyway.

They're going to keep the foundation of the character the same, but also a renvisioning of Lara's characteristics (her courage, dedication, determination, class, style, wit, etc...). It's the timeline that's a clean slate.

So we're seeing the origins of how Lara became the person she is, not how she would eventually get to Atlantis, or pursuing Excalibur or. Mjolnir. Those events never happened and won't be after we get through the island chapter in Lara's life.

That also means we don't go through Lara's encounters with Natla all over again. Though it may be possible (emphasis on may) to see a reimagined version of the Atlantean Queen, there's no evidence of it, and pretty unlikely.

It's just like when Batman got rebooted by Christopher Nolan. The story continuity got wiped clean starting all over from a new beginning, while the foundation of the character is retained to embark on his all new adventures, as envisioned by Nolan.

[dark7angel]

I was rewatching GameSpot's Stage Demo and I noticed that after the upgrades at the base camp Lara gets a quiver for her arrows!!! I didn't see it when I first watched it! Anyone else noticed this?

[Metalrocks]

i also think there were no spoilers. we still dont know whats going on on this island. who these scavengers are, what will lara discover. we know now how it will play.

sounds like a good good reboot and im sure it will be a successful game and more will come to explain laras story in more detail. :)

[d1n0_xD]

I was rewatching GameSpot's Stage Demo and I noticed that after the upgrades at the base camp Lara gets a quiver for her arrows!!! I didn't see it when I first watched it! Anyone else noticed this?

Yeah, now that you mentioned it, I see it :D Nice :D Guess we won't have further complaints about that :D

[JRod108]

I wonder if there will be an achievement in game if you use your bow and arrows for everything, unless forced to by QTEs. That would be a nice challenge.... Games looking great, I like the RPG elements. At first, the thought was a bit concerning, but it looks like CD really thought about how those elements will come into play. The more I see of this game, the more it looks like it's going to be very successful.

[dark7angel]

^I agree with you! I was also a little apprehensive about the RPG elements but after watching the demo, I think it looks fine.

[TranceTrouble]

hmm didn't notice that, nice notice :)

[Darkwoodsoftime]

hmm , guys take a look at this interview

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Does it mean we'll get a Demo in mid-Summer ? :D

[d1n0_xD]

I wonder if there will be an achievement in game if you use your bow and arrows for everything

This would be nice :D

[Shaikh]

Does it mean we'll get a Demo in mid-Summer ? :D

Woot. A Demo? :eek: For Real! Yahoo. :D I hope it will not be XBOX360 exclusive. :)

[Metalrocks]

it does sound like we get a demo this summer. would be interesting to know how it plays, what huge differences we will get from this game :)

@shaikh
you wish :p
it will be for pc only :rasp:

[d1n0_xD]

I, for once, wouldn't mind if the demo is an exclusive to whatever platforms just for the fact it's a demo :p What I'm interested in is the game and the dlc :D

[Shaikh]

@shaikh
you wish :p
it will be for pc only :rasp:
That would be best for me, PC gamer only. :D

If they do a demo I guess it would be the parts we have seen at Gamespot Stage Demo, at best they could add last year's Scavengers Den Demo and maybe the 'Behind Closed Doors' demo. :)

[a big house]

Hmm.... I think I'll leave this demo and wait until around Christmas time to have a go...

[pidipidi39]

can't wait for the demo!! i want the demo as the cavern level or the hunting deer level :O

[adobeARTIST]

@shaikh
you wish :p
it will be for pc only :rasp:

You're both wrong. The demo is adobeARTIST exclusive :rasp::whistle:

[Shaikh]

You're both wrong. The demo is adobeARTIST exclusive :rasp::whistle:

In your dreams. :rasp:

[adobeARTIST]

In your dreams. :rasp:

Don't wake me!!!!! :nut::p:lol:

[Metalrocks]

Don't wake me!!!!! :nut::p:lol:

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[LARALOVERnr.1]

DEMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D

But wait... Isn't it mid-summer already? And doesn't he mean a new demo that will be shown rather than one we can all download and play released?

[Ivana KC]

DEMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D

But wait... Isn't it mid-summer already? And doesn't he mean a new demo that will be shown rather than one we can all download and play released?


I hope it'll be playable. Excitement is too damn high for me to wait and see only non-playable demo. :D

[Metalrocks]

amazing how well CD can tease us and keep us on edge for such a long time, in participation for the game or even a demo.

a playable demo would be awesome. even when its at a early stage, as long it gives us an idea how it plays, im more then happy. :D

[d1n0_xD]

DEMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D

But wait... Isn't it mid-summer already?

It's not even summer yet :p

[Shaikh]

DEMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D

But wait... Isn't it mid-summer already?

Summer (Northern Hemisphere) begins Wednesday, June 20, 2012, and ends Friday, September 21, 2012. According to Google. :p

[LARALOVERnr.1]

@d1n0
Right, looked it up, summer starts at the 21st of June.

So that means.... we might be getting a demo as early as July :D:D:D

[Shaikh]

@d1n0
Right, looked it up, summer starts at the 21st of June.

So that means.... we might be getting a demo as early as July :D:D:D

Mid-Summer = August 6, 2012. :D

[LARALOVERnr.1]

^
Well, yes, but I guess they could release it a week before or after :p

[JRod108]

I don't know if I will get the demo. Some demos can be very buggy and give a bad impression to the rest of the game. Personally, I really don't like the concept of demos to begin with, if the demo isn't polished, then that can actually hurt this game, and I really don't want that. Regardless, I'd rather wait for the final product so I'm not disappointed or if it's good, then not even more excited for this game. I hate being too excited this far from release....

[Shaikh]

^
Well, yes, but I guess they could release it a week before or after :p
Yes. And they might not release the demo at all. :p

[Metalrocks]

nice interview from angry joe.
http://angryjoeshow.com/2012/06/aj-e3-2012-tomb-raider-square/

[dark7angel]

^Very nice interview!!! Thanks for sharing! :D

[d1n0_xD]

Man, I'm just starting to watch these vids with sound, and I must say, the music is awesome and creepy :D In the IGN demo, when Karl talks to that IGN guy, and in the end, the music is really scary, kinda like an arabic theme, reminded me of Prince of Persia :D But not just that, you can hear some screams and echos... Man, I can't wait to play a game like this :D

[TranceTrouble]

thanks for the link Metalrocks:thumb:
added to the times thread as well ;)

[Metalrocks]

thanks for the link Metalrocks:thumb:
added to the times thread as well ;)

no probs. you are welcome :)

[d1n0_xD]

I just realized that in that Crossroads render, Lara has some kind of an uber-bow, not the one we've seen in the demos made of twigs... Check it out :D



Just zoom in on the bow, and you'll see :D Some kind of a golden, Japanese bow :D I'm assuming we can find that bow later in the game and I can't wait :D

[Shaikh]

Isn't it the same as Turning Point trailer bow? Had some markings on it as well.

Deer Hunt demo bow was just a makeshift bow. :)

[d1n0_xD]

Hmm, I don't know, this one seems a bit different. I think the one in that trailer is the same as the in that forum banner up there :D Soooo, we have 3 different bows :eek: :D

[LadyRufina]

Hmm, I don't know, this one seems a bit different. I think the one in that trailer is the same as the in that forum banner up there :D Soooo, we have 3 different bows :eek: :D

No I think that is the same one as the Turning Point trailer but apparently there is at least 3 bows. Some gamer journalist said in an article that he saw a render of Lara near the end of her transformation and she was wielding a compound bow...

[a big house]

^ Same as with the climbing axe.
She gets the first one underground beneath the hut, and then we see her later on with the red one from the trailer and first renders.
So I'm guessing that there will be a third version of that too.