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Deekman
12-17-2002, 08:19 PM
As of 10:00pm this evening here in NYC,
the ticket lines are going around the block at a theater
near Union Square, waiting for tix that go on sale at midnight.
I'll probably go see Nemesis in the next day or two and then
see TTT on Saturday.

Cheers to you Peter Jackson!

Solange
12-18-2002, 02:36 AM
I haven't seen anything in the papers about Nemesis here in Sweden, I hope it'll come soon! I'll probably wait till after Christmas to see TTT, it's a little crazy right now...

TDC
12-18-2002, 03:33 AM
Those of us who bought the extended edition DVD have only a couple of weeks to use our ticket vouchers. I plan to use mine this weekend!

It's too bad I couldn't get three vouchers. That's at least how many times I'm going to see it before it's out of the theatres.

theBlackman
12-18-2002, 04:10 AM
Just got out of the movie.
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62201

Deekman
12-18-2002, 05:34 AM
Nice review, TheBlackman! I've read the triligoy around twenty times, so I may notice what you are talking about. The changes that have been made
so far don't really bother me. I read the Silmarillion a couple times, but that's rough reading at best. That's only because its written as if it were a tome from Middle earth rather than a narrative about it.
I'm mostly looking forward to Treebeard & Company, Gollum, and the Battle at
Helm's Deep.
Also I'm looking forward to the fall of Isengard at the hands of, well, I'll keep mum about that. Don't wanna give anything away.

Oliphants, Ents, and Wargs, Oh my!

V_Croft
12-18-2002, 06:13 AM
I just finished reading the first part of the book...
I'm going to see the film tomorrow - can't wait :)

Riovanes
12-18-2002, 03:01 PM
I saw the 12:01 showing here (between the 17th and 18th, right after midnight... blah, stupid time and its definitions into hours and minutes and days...). DAMN was that a good flick...

The thing I can't get over was the number of people in the theatre whining about how the previews spoiled it. I wanted to turn around and say, "Well gee, the books have only been out for FIFTY YEARS... Try reading for a change, it's good for you."

Anyhow, I'll definitely be back in the theatre within days to see that again.

BAH!!!

MunkeeChum
12-19-2002, 01:53 AM
I was disapointed with the film....

I thought it was average when it was suppposed to be exellent, I also think it ended to early. Should have ended where the book ended, I think it would have made a more exciting ending anyway

To be honest I have been dispointed with both films, what i like about the books is the intracate story of Middle Earth and all its history. I wished the films had taken that into acount more and less into the batte sequences.

I'm hoping that the last film we be the first above average LOTR film....

DaveJ
12-19-2002, 02:15 AM
Fair point, but you have to appreciate the sacrifices necessary when translating from one media to another.
If someone had made a literal word for word adaptation movie series as written by Tolkien, they would be very ponderous movies indeed...great to read, laborious to watch.
Jackson (no relation) has successfully taken the best elements and given them cinematic scope ....Tolkien was not a dramatic writer, so changes are inevitable.

The first movie didn't end where the book did, either...dramatic license again. ;)

MunkeeChum
12-19-2002, 02:27 AM
Certainly, when you look at it from a money making point of view it couldn't be better....

I would have prefered a six part movie franchise splitting the story into its original 6 books. That way there could have been more boring narrative and storytelling :p

DaveJ
12-19-2002, 02:33 AM
Damn storys getting in the way of movie-making....*spits*

Deekman
12-19-2002, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by MunkeeChum
splitting the story into its original 6 books.

Many people tend to overlook that fact.

hmmmm...Maybe when I buy my new copies of the Trilogy,
I'll get the six book version. They are available.
I'm still reading from my yellowed dog eared paperback copies
that I got in '72.

Prelude
12-19-2002, 07:46 AM
I haven't seen this movie yet so there is nothing I can say that will spoil it for anyone........

*prelude leaves the room*

Eddy Bones
12-20-2002, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by DEEKMAN


hmmmm...Maybe when I buy my new copies of the Trilogy,
I'll get the six book version.
I think it would be best that I got this set also. I'm stuck with all 6 books crammed into one HUGE volume.
Just got back from the movie tonight. The fighting was very enjoyable. If I want the story I'll just read the book. The book doesn't show me the battles though. It's tough for me to visualize the battles, so I'll just watch them:)

Jorge22
12-21-2002, 11:38 AM
I saw the movie today. Great locations, great acting, great adaptation of the original story. Did they change just a few things? Well, isn't that normal? Recently, they made a mexican film based on a XIX century book by an important Portuguese writer. Well, the Portuguese Society of Authors decided to sue because they had changed everything to a Mexican reality. Now, let's not follow their silliness...

Jewlia
12-21-2002, 01:14 PM
with most big blockbusters....too much hype, don't believe it.

Deekman
12-21-2002, 06:20 PM
Well, TTT does live up to the hype, but I'll reserve my comments
until I've had more of a chance to think about them...
I'll say this though;
It's a must see, especially if you've seen Fellowship.

DaveJ
12-22-2002, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by Jewlia
with most big blockbusters....too much hype, don't believe it.

Since the only hype has been generated by the Press (needing a story to print), or by the public themselves (excited after the first film)....no....don't ever believe the hype.


If the film-makers themselves had generated any hype there may be cause for complaint. But they have been very tight-lipped...


If you do think it doesn't live up to the hype....more fool you for listening to said hype in the first place.

KoolKat
12-22-2002, 09:19 AM
I can't wait to see the Two Towers at the cinema when it comes.
Lord of the Rings is great.
It's got a great storyline, good effects, good action and Orlando Bloom. Nice.

http://www.alloy.com/images/photos/220x305/orlando_bloom_newline.jpg

Acceber
12-23-2002, 06:33 AM
Seconding that, KK!

I am of the opinion that TTT was fantastic, and I can't wait to go and see it again. :) :D

DaveJ
12-23-2002, 10:51 AM
I loved it too...the quickest three hours of my life!

theBlackman
12-23-2002, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by DaveJ
I loved it too...the quickest three hours of my life!

Agreed. It was Too damn short I could have sat there until my butt grew into the cushion.

Ah... for the days of my youth, when you could go into a theatre at noon and not come out until midnight. Seeing and re-seeing the movie as many times as you liked.

And, of course, the 24 hour movie theatres in the New York of my childhood where you could stay there until you ran out of money for food and starved to death.

No lights on time to go. Just reel after reel after reel, one movie segue into the next endlessly.

Omega One
12-23-2002, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by DEEKMAN
Well, TTT does live up to the hype, but I'll reserve my comments
until I've had more of a chance to think about them...
I'll say this though;
It's a must see, especially if you've seen Fellowship.

I beg to differ. I've just seen it today (well - yesterday as its after midnight now) and I hated it.

Acting was good, locations brilliant... only best part about it was the battle scenes!

Too short?! God no! It dragged on and on (ad infinum), almost fell asleep half way through...

Dad is a real LotR fan - and wasn't happy with it either. He picked on all the changes made, all the inaccuracies...

Now, I haven't read the books (don't have the time) but well, bleh.

Three hours wasted, IMO.

DaveJ
12-24-2002, 02:11 AM
Because of the way the book of TTT is structured, changes were inevitable and indeed necessary when making a film version.

Had it been transcribed directly, it would have been a much more painfully dull film for you to have sat through. (Great to read, interminable to watch.)



Can't wait to see it again at the end of the week.

Acceber
12-26-2002, 07:11 AM
I powseonally think FotR was the strongest of the books, and I still think it's the strongest of the films so far. I think there are changes to the books PJ needs to make from now on (he did it well enough in TTT) to make the film version interesting enough.

Certain parts of the books are unnecessary, dull, and would not make for enthralling viewing, imo. As usual, it all comes down to individual opinion though.

I can say that I can't wait to see more of Gollum though.

(yeah, Legolas too ;))

Umah Bloodomen
12-26-2002, 09:53 PM
I thought the movie was quite good myself. (With the exception of the chatty twits next to me of course) :p

The characters were still consistant, the locations were still stunning, the length was decent (could've been more, but I am sure we'll see it in the special edition DVD) and the plotline was right where it should be (in the middle). It started like a continuation, and ended like a cliffhanger and captivated the audience the entire way. What more could one ask for?

Oh yes, the third installment of course.... ;)

My fiance is a big fan of LoTR and said something simlar to what Dave had mentioned, himself. I don't think much of anything was lost when bringing the story to the film medium, and what was omitted didn't take away from the story IMO.

I am sure I will see this at least 2 more times in the weeks to come. ;)

Interesting LoTR Trivia which I discovered on the IMDB, Christopher Lee is the only crew member to have actually met J.R.R. Tolkien in real life.

Between meeting Tolkien and his little duel in SWEII, Mr. Lee definately has had an interesting life.

DaveJ
12-27-2002, 02:16 AM
He was Ian Fleming's cousin, too.