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MACGRUBER
10-31-2010, 10:41 AM
I really don't like killing people in games, it's just kind of sickening so I'm glad that being non lethal will be a viable strategy in this game. Anyone else gonna try it?

mad825
10-31-2010, 10:44 AM
eh, I'm not much of a pacifist.

Unless there is minimal gore then I might try it on my third or fourth round.

Overtime
10-31-2010, 11:15 AM
First run through, stealth with sniper rifle.
Second run through, non lethal.

AlexOfSpades
10-31-2010, 11:26 AM
First run through, stealth with sniper rifle.
Second run through, non lethal.

Third run, Plasma Gun Maniac.


That's how i do it too.

Viktoria
10-31-2010, 11:28 AM
First run through, stealth with sniper rifle.
Second run through, non lethal.

The same. :thumb:

St. Mellow
10-31-2010, 11:28 AM
Well, if it ends up being a game that deserves more than one playthrough and has the sufficient depth to make alternative play-styles worth trying, you can bet I'm gonna do lethal, non-lethal, ultra-lethal, semi-lethal, kind-of-lethal, wannabe-lethal, beef, fish, chicken, chocolate, spiffy, fluffy, and jumpy playthroughs, and also all variations thereof. Obviously.

Jerion
10-31-2010, 12:38 PM
Yeah, I'll do non-lethal. Always makes makes me feel like an enforcer, not an executioner.

Corpus
10-31-2010, 01:09 PM
I'm probably going crossbow/social first time round, depends on the weapons really.

WildcatPhoenix
10-31-2010, 01:20 PM
;1516772']Well, if it ends up being a game that deserves more than one playthrough and has the sufficient depth to make alternative play-styles worth trying, you can bet I'm gonna do lethal, non-lethal, ultra-lethal, semi-lethal, kind-of-lethal, wannabe-lethal, beef, fish, chicken, chocolate, spiffy, fluffy, and jumpy playthroughs, and also all variations thereof. Obviously.

Those chocolate playthroughs are tough. Restricted only to using candy bars...takes forever to kill an MJ12 Commando with those damn things!

OwlSolar
10-31-2010, 01:20 PM
First run through, stealth with sniper rifle.
Second run through, non lethal.
First playthough, I'm just going to be pragmatic, and do whatever works.
Second playthrough, I'm going to be a complete sociopathic lunatic. I'm going to be killing every single person, animal, or machine I can find.

...Wait, was this about being non-lethal? That can wait until after a few more repetitions of the second playthrough. :)

mad_red
10-31-2010, 01:27 PM
Those chocolate playthroughs are tough. Restricted only to using candy bars...takes forever to kill an MJ12 Commando with those damn things!

It's because they won't make them like they use to. (sp?)

'CHOC-O-LENT DREAM, IT'S CHOCOLATE! IT'S PEOPLE! IT'S BOTH!(tm)
85% Recycled Material

First playthrough starts nonlethal. If it goes the way of Deus Ex, I eventually go lethal on the MJ12 commandos and the like, cuz they' have it coming. If it goes the way of DX2, everyone is a creepy freak so I won't take any chances. But mostly DX2 simply wasn't quite as much fun nonlethal.

Second playthrough definitely nonlethal. Normally I play the third playthrough as Rambo, but instead I think I'll do one using using all the skills that are relatively weak or useless. DANGIT, I meant augs and upgrades. Old habits...

Pretentious Old Man.
10-31-2010, 01:34 PM
Non-lethal on innocents and pawns/grunts, lethal on those who know what their doing and deserve to die. That's how I did DX1 too, non-lethal for NSF/UNATCO/Civilians, lethal for MJ12. It's Kk

Corpus
10-31-2010, 01:43 PM
One thing I know, Federova is getting face stabbed every playthrough.

Pretentious Old Man.
10-31-2010, 01:57 PM
Crowbar to face won't be in the new one, will it? Ah, Louis Pan, we all...hated your ghastly little face.

WildcatPhoenix
10-31-2010, 01:59 PM
Crowbar to face won't be in the new one, will it? Ah, Louis Pan, we all...hated your ghastly little face.

Hehehe...

"I can tell them you are a spy, and they will kill you."
"I know the Dragon He-GRRRRK!"

*JC wipes off crowbar and walks away whistling.

Good times. Shame we'll have to stick to third-person armblade shankery for our little annoying Chinese boy murdering this time around.

OwlSolar
10-31-2010, 02:12 PM
Yeah. What a shame.

One thing I know, Federova is getting face stabbed every playthrough.
And Barrett. And Sarif, Malik, and Eliza if I can manage it.

Corpus
10-31-2010, 02:21 PM
Yeah. What a shame.


And Barrett. And Sarif, Malik, and Eliza if I can manage it.

Hopefully you don't have to kill em all. Only kill certain ones depending on your choices.

Overtime
10-31-2010, 02:36 PM
First playthough, I'm just going to be pragmatic, and do whatever works.
Second playthrough, I'm going to be a complete sociopathic lunatic. I'm going to be killing every single person, animal, or machine I can find.

...Wait, was this about being non-lethal? That can wait until after a few more repetitions of the second playthrough. :)

Your second play through has just become my third!

jcd3nt0n
10-31-2010, 02:55 PM
I'm always full-non lethal. When i let maggie chow appaer deep down in the versalife compound, i knock her and carry her to the med center in tracer tong's hideout. I'm philantrope! :cool::cheek::friends::group_hug:

anunnaki
10-31-2010, 03:06 PM
I think i'm going to try and be non lethal for as long as I can, first play through. I doubt it will last long with so many deadly toys but I'll try not to kill anyone who isn't shooting at me. If I can stealth them, i'll probably knock them out, unless I feel they deserve it of course. And I tend to be the guy who takes it personally when NPC's talk trash, so if anyones going to get knocked out it will be any aug hating civilians who can't keep there mouths shut.

subtlesnake
10-31-2010, 03:17 PM
I really don't like killing people in games, it's just kind of sickening so I'm glad that being non lethal will be a viable strategy in this game. Anyone else gonna try it?
You're a gamer who doesn't like killing people?! I guess Call of Duty isn't your favourite series then.

AlexOfSpades
10-31-2010, 03:19 PM
Yeah. What a shame.


And Barrett. And Sarif, Malik, and Eliza if I can manage it.

You bet Barrett's going down, but i'm just not the kind of guy that kills the ladies.

Specially Fedorova.

I'd do anything to have that... beauty on my team, if you get what i mean.

OwlSolar
10-31-2010, 03:47 PM
Hopefully you don't have to kill em all. Only kill certain ones depending on your choices.
But I will anyway. :)
Assuming that I can. :hmm:

Fluffis
10-31-2010, 03:54 PM
Non-lethal on innocents and pawns/grunts, lethal on those who know what their doing and deserve to die. That's how I did DX1 too, non-lethal for NSF/UNATCO/Civilians, lethal for MJ12. It's Kk

Same for me.

pringlepower
10-31-2010, 04:34 PM
Same for me.

I did the same, but it was more that I got tired of how slow non-lethal was right around the time MJ12 showed up in force. I was nice to the ones in the NY water treatment place though.

Psychomorph
10-31-2010, 05:12 PM
I really don't like killing people in games, it's just kind of sickening so I'm glad that being non lethal will be a viable strategy in this game. Anyone else gonna try it?
Same here, I always intuitively try to play stealthy, sneak past guards and be invisible. Played FarCry recently and I couldn't help myself as to sneak through the jungle, adds way more atmosphere to the game compared to running around and slaying folks... you don't even hear the birds singing. However, FarCry requires fighting at some point, and killing to many people in games always gives me that sickening feeling.

You're a gamer who doesn't like killing people?! I guess Call of Duty isn't your favourite series then.
If it was directed at me, I'd answer: "That's why THIEF is my favourite franchise".

MACGRUBER
10-31-2010, 05:26 PM
Thats why I've always been a fan of the mgs series. On my playthroughs of all the games except the first one I only killed when I absolutly had to. It's the only thing that hinders my enjoyment of the bioware games. You have to kill people in the mass effect and origions games. Even in their earlier games it was almost impossible to play non lethaly. I was also a big fan of arkham asylum because of this too.

pringlepower
10-31-2010, 05:46 PM
Thats why I've always been a fan of the mgs series. On my playthroughs of all the games except the first one I only killed when I absolutly had to. It's the only thing that hinders my enjoyment of the bioware games. You have to kill people in the mass effect and origions games. Even in their earlier games it was almost impossible to play non lethaly. I was also a big fan of arkham asylum because of this too.

Well as much fun as it would be to knock the Archdaemon unconcious... or the Reaper unconcious... or you know.

Anyways if Batman would stop being such a idealistic fool and kill the damn Joker he'd be saving A LOT OF LIVES.

anunnaki
10-31-2010, 07:13 PM
You bet Barrett's going down, but i'm just not the kind of guy that kills the ladies.

Specially Fedorova.

I'd do anything to have that... beauty on my team, if you get what i mean.

If I have to kill her I will, but I will feel guilty in doing so.

OwlSolar
10-31-2010, 07:25 PM
If I have to kill her, then I'll do it while laughing maniacally. I'm pretty sure you're all getting tired of this by now. :p

Okay, now for a non-inane comment.
You know, chances are that even if the developers say that there are characters you can to kill, there's a good chance that people will find out how to get around them anyway. For example, the developers seemed to intend for Gunther and Anna to be killed, but people managed to avoid them.

pringlepower
10-31-2010, 07:41 PM
If I have to kill her, then I'll do it while laughing maniacally. I'm pretty sure you're all getting tired of this by now. :p

Okay, now for a non-inane comment.
You know, chances are that even if the developers say that there are characters you can to kill, there's a good chance that people will find out how to get around them anyway. For example, the developers seemed to intend for Gunther and Anna to be killed, but people managed to avoid them.

Well yeah, by game exploits or cheating. That doesn't really count.

OwlSolar
10-31-2010, 07:44 PM
I agree, but I'm saying that some people will do it anyway (if they can). And honestly, it's up to them whether it counts or not.

Manho221
10-31-2010, 08:09 PM
;1516772']Well, if it ends up being a game that deserves more than one playthrough and has the sufficient depth to make alternative play-styles worth trying, you can bet I'm gonna do lethal, non-lethal, ultra-lethal, semi-lethal, kind-of-lethal, wannabe-lethal, beef, fish, chicken, chocolate, spiffy, fluffy, and jumpy playthroughs, and also all variations thereof. Obviously.

100% agree :gamer:

mad825
10-31-2010, 08:24 PM
surprising how so many people are emotional over binary code. I suppose the Recycling Bin is a memorial in itself.

Pinky_Powers
10-31-2010, 08:40 PM
I really don't like killing people in games, it's just kind of sickening so I'm glad that being non lethal will be a viable strategy in this game. Anyone else gonna try it?

First play-through, I'll be stealthy, but I'll kill if I think it appropriate.

Second play-through, I'll kill everybody... civilians first. I'll fire-bomb their stores and shoot them in the street. I'll loot their corpses and drink all their booze.
"There are no innocence", so says my .357 DiamondBack... her word is law, and I'd be a fool to refuse her divine wisdom.

anunnaki
10-31-2010, 09:31 PM
surprising how so many people are emotional over binary code. I suppose the Recycling Bin is a memorial in itself.

It has to be good coding though none the less.

TrickyVein
10-31-2010, 09:44 PM
I never did complete my "all three heavy weapons and sometimes the LAW" playthrough. Herm.

MACGRUBER
11-01-2010, 12:24 AM
I'm not talking about always not having to kill but sometimes having the option of it. Of course you have to kill the arch demon and the reapers but there are situations when avoiding killing people would make sense as well, of course this would be difficult to put in the gameplay. In regards to batman i think it's a little difficult to apply the logic of just fricking kill him. First of all in the real world the joker would have never escaped a super max security facility and they can't just kill of all of their characters can they? I also think part of batman's character is to be stupidly idealistic. he's a little crazy himself

BigBoss
11-01-2010, 08:12 AM
I personally love the extra challenge of not killing anyone, it makes me feel like batman

OwlSolar
11-01-2010, 03:48 PM
First play-through, I'll be stealthy, but I'll kill if I think it appropriate.

Second play-through, I'll kill everybody... civilians first. I'll fire-bomb their stores and shoot them in the street. I'll loot their corpses and drink all their booze.
"There are no innocence", so says my .357 DiamondBack... her word is law, and I'd be a fool to refuse her divine wisdom.
Oh heck yes. There had better be whiskey in this game.

PlasmaSnake101
11-01-2010, 07:18 PM
First run through, stealth with sniper rifle.
Second run through, non lethal.

A stealth pistol with scope or a simple knife. I don't like to bother with the prod after the first few missions.

singularity
11-01-2010, 08:36 PM
I personally love the extra challenge of not killing anyone, it makes me feel like batman

The only thing I hate more in life than being nice to people is feeling like Batman.
I'm killing everything I can, even if it results in serious personal losses for my character. Nothing gets out alive.

After that, I might try and play like Batman... but only so I can get pissed off enough to kill everyone again in a third playthrough.

pringlepower
11-01-2010, 09:00 PM
The only thing I hate more in life than being nice to people is feeling like Batman.
I'm killing everything I can, even if it results in serious personal losses for my character. Nothing gets out alive.

After that, I might try and play like Batman... but only so I can get pissed off enough to kill everyone again in a third playthrough.

If you're going to be Batman, start by wearing augmented underpants on the OUTSIDE, then talk about not killing.

avenging_teabag
11-01-2010, 10:36 PM
Oh heck yes. There had better be whiskey in this game.
There better be cigs. I quit irl, but I wanna be able to light up in-game.

Anyway, first time I'm gonna play as a silent sniper, as I almost always do in the original. The second, if the game holds my interest, probably heavy weapons/explosives. I never go out of my way to kill unnecessarily, but non-lethal is boring, imo.

GrayLander
11-01-2010, 10:49 PM
I remember in the original Deus Ex after being captured by UNATCO I only went for non-lethal take downs on the guards (they used to be my buddies!) On my second play through I remember only stun proding the "terrorists", didn't want to kill the good guys. It made it more difficult but at the same time more fun.

Uzuki
11-02-2010, 07:23 AM
The more realistic games like DX become, the less I'm inclined to use lethal force unless it's against someone like Walton Simons or Anna Navarre. In short, I'll be stealthy while I can, but will abandon that "minimal force" approach if I run out of tranquilizer darts or face a "boss." On that note, doesn't it drive you nuts when Kaplan says "so much for [that] approach" when you simply buy tranquilizer darts from him?

Ninjerk
11-02-2010, 10:17 AM
"minimum force approach," you need to play through the game again.

Overtime
11-02-2010, 10:23 AM
In short, I'll be stealthy while I can, but will abandon that "minimal force" approach if I run out of tranquilizer darts or face a "boss."

It's exactly in those situations, when you have no charge left in your prod and you are low on tranq darts that the non-lethal route forces you to be creative. That's where the fun is.

Serendipitous
11-02-2010, 12:20 PM
I'm not even going to knock people unconscious unless I have to. And I'm not going to carry any lethal weapons other than a pistol.

Ninjerk
11-02-2010, 12:54 PM
It's exactly in those situations, when you have no charge left in your prod and you are low on tranq darts that the non-lethal route forces you to be creative. That's where the fun is.

Isn't the baton a non-lethal weapon?

Brock
11-03-2010, 02:48 AM
I'm not even going to knock people unconscious unless I have to. And I'm not going to carry any lethal weapons other than a pistol.

That's how I played the first Deus Ex for the first time except I had also Sniper Rifle with silencer. Mostly I used non-lethal approach to human targets through every mission and will try on the new game the same way.

Coyotegrey
11-03-2010, 11:27 AM
Of COURSE I will!

I'm the type of guy who, no matter what, tried to avoid killing people in all the MGS titles.

hem dazon 90
11-03-2010, 11:29 AM
No why would I?

Bushmonster
11-03-2010, 11:31 AM
im going to do the charles bronson playthrough first, then stealth, and then social/nonletal

Anu
11-03-2010, 12:13 PM
Nonlethal stealth on the first run. If the social approach delivers, itīll be like Garret waltzing in after giving a wink (and a couple of non-forged coins) to the dancer at the inn. Though pure stealth would have you throwing an unoriented and panicking mouse at the feet of said dancer at the keymoment of her stepping on to the stage.

And Iīve always had a sweet spot for sniper rifles, so... All the consecutive runs itīs just trying out different strategies with all the pleasant maniacal ways of disposing of the mooks in your way. Personal justice served, hah! Whereīs my whiskey and an ashtray, if you please:D

Ilves
11-03-2010, 12:23 PM
Personally in games like DX and the MGS series I love to up the dramz by being strictly non lethal, and only resort to non lethal when you're all out of options and just about to kick the bucket. Makes non lethal combat all the more visceral.

AlexOfSpades
11-03-2010, 12:58 PM
There are a few people that deserve to die.

Like Maggie Chow. Or Anna Navarre.

Jerion
11-03-2010, 01:05 PM
I typically try to avoid getting lethal, except in cases where things have spiraled out of control and the only way to survive --for the moment, at least-- is to bring out the more permanently effective weaponry.

Mindmute
11-03-2010, 01:10 PM
Stealth all the way, non-lethal if there's an enemy that I feel need to get out of the way. I'll likely keep a sniper rifle handy and upgraded, though. Sometimes some enemies just make it feel necessary.

hexanal
11-03-2010, 07:08 PM
My main weapon in DX is the baton, with the Low-Tech skill maxed out. You have to be really stealthy though, as the frontal attack always fails.
Unfortunately, once the MJ12 mechs come into play, the measly baton is useless. What a shame.

First time through: non-lethal, stealth as hell
Second time through: Kill. Every single person.
n-th time through: Explore. Every nook and cranny.

TrickyVein
11-03-2010, 07:10 PM
I typically try to avoid getting lethal, except in cases where things have spiraled out of control and the only way to survive --for the moment, at least-- is to bring out the more permanently effective weaponry.

Lols

"permanently effective" weaponry, as opposed to temporarily effective sorts.

AxiomaticBadger
11-04-2010, 06:24 AM
Social! My enemies will bow before me, and politely lead me to my objectives, supplying a variety of refreshments on the way! :D

Lethal. If they dare oppose me they deserve everything they get.