Actors for Batman/Bruce Wayne role.

[Creature of the Night]

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Here's My reasons why

1.He can play dark characters like Riddick etc.

2.They'd just have to put wig on him when he plays Bruce Wayne (heh they did with Sean Connery when he played James Bond in one of the films)

3.He's got the build

4.I'd say he could pull off Bruce Wayne like he played Xander Cage in xXx


5.He almost played DareDevil but pulled out

[Creature of the Night]

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[freeze131]

This is the same as the person who suggested "The Rock" play Batman. I don't see it working.

[Zur-en-ah]

hell no

cease and desist

[EliteF50]

This is the same as the person who suggested "The Rock" play Batman. I don't see it working.

Lol, no. That was me. And I still see it working.

[Matches Malone]

Why is everyone wanting to change Batman's ethnicity? Maybe we can get William Hung to play the Joker while we are at it.

Oh well its still not the worst suggestion I've heard on this forum, that trophy still belongs to the guy who suggested Brendan Frasier.

[door noob]

Do you not see the diffrence? I think you would have to change Bruce Wayne's parents too, so that it would explain how Bruce Wayne is Black, and Italian.

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[Zur-en-ah]

even when Christian Bale was announced, I wasn't sure ... to this day, I still think Keaton was a damn good Batman

[Hadi]

Only true directers such as Nolan know who to pic for a super hero. Lets leave it to them

[Batman The Trailer Hunter]

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[Scarecrow007]

http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

Gotta agree with the instant "NO'' button.

[Matches Malone]

Only true directers such as Nolan know who to pic for a super hero. Lets leave it to them

Thats not true at all, Joel Schumacher is a decent enough director, he gave us The Lost Boys & Phantom of the Opera was pretty good, & he was still capable of bad casting. Tim Burton, also a decent director, IMO could have made a much better casting decision.

I have seen lots of good ideas from this forum & there is certainly no harm in speculating & having fun. Who knows maybe some day the next director trying to cast Batman will be browsing the internet for who the fans have liked/suggested.

[EliteF50]

Jon Hamm needs to play Batman in the reboot.

[Hadi]

Jon Hamm needs to play Batman in the reboot.

Thats another thing, why do we have to reboot Batman after nolans last? The next directer should just continue where ever nolan left off. seriously I'm tired of reboots. Batman Begins had great origin theres no need to tell it again.

[Batman The Trailer Hunter]

Thats another thing, why do we have to reboot Batman after nolans last? The next directer should just continue where ever nolan left off. seriously I'm tired of reboots. Batman Begins had great origin theres no need to tell it again.

Exactly. This has been the best batman of all time why reboot it and make it worse

[EliteF50]

Thats another thing, why do we have to reboot Batman after nolans last? The next directer should just continue where ever nolan left off. seriously I'm tired of reboots. Batman Begins had great origin theres no need to tell it again.

Because each time a new director takes over a franchise, he creates it in his vision, not the vision of his predecessor.

Zack Snyder MUST take over the Batman franchise once B3 is released and Nolan's trilogy is complete. Zack expressed great interest in creating a TDKR adaption and I'd love to see that happen.

[Matches Malone]

I wish they would just make one shot movies that are direct adaptations of the novles.

ex.
Zach Snyder- TDKR
David Fincher- Joker
Martin Campbell- The Long halloween
JJ Abrams- Hush

Its not a continuing series it just builds the Batman universe in the film media. The directors wouldn't be restricted by the previous films style or story they could just make good Batman movies.

A reboot has to be done otherwise we will never get a "true" Batman movie.

I love the Nolan films on a side not, best ones yet, but we can make a better Batman movie.

[Zur-en-ah]

Jon Hamm needs to play Batman in the reboot.

thank you!!!

I've been saying this for yonks now!

[gotham_knight_lives]

I wish they would just make one shot movies that are direct adaptations of the novles.

ex.
Zach Snyder- TDKR
David Fincher- Joker
Martin Campbell- The Long halloween
JJ Abrams- Hush

Its not a continuing series it just builds the Batman universe in the film media. The directors wouldn't be restricted by the previous films style or story they could just make good Batman movies.

A reboot has to be done otherwise we will never get a "true" Batman movie.

I love the Nolan films on a side not, best ones yet, but we can make a better Batman movie.

The issue with a reboot isn't the fact that it could be done better (which I really can't see any other director doing a better job at this time) the issue is we don't need the same story told over again. New stories are going to be what's wanted after the Nolan films are complete...

[Old_BenKenobi]

I wish they would just make one shot movies that are direct adaptations of the novles.

ex.
Zach Snyder- TDKR
David Fincher- Joker
Martin Campbell- The Long halloween
JJ Abrams- Hush

Its not a continuing series it just builds the Batman universe in the film media. The directors wouldn't be restricted by the previous films style or story they could just make good Batman movies.

A reboot has to be done otherwise we will never get a "true" Batman movie.

I love the Nolan films on a side not, best ones yet, but we can make a better Batman movie.

Why bother making movies if they're just gonna be adaptations of previous existing stories? Thats too boring and limited for live action.

Also, the director who comes after Nolan could totally ignore his style and story if he wants to. Batman Forever was in the same continuity as Batman and Batman Returns yet it had a totally different visual style and few references to the existing plot. And before anyone jumps on me and says "Hurr durrrr that movie wasnt good!" No, but the change of style and relative lack of references to the previous films isn't why its bad. A wise director would start from wherever Nolan left off and over the course of the movie subtlely shift it into his own vision, keeping it in with the continuity while showing the directorial transition.

[Matches Malone]

Why bother making movies if they're just gonna be adaptations of previous existing stories? Thats too boring and limited for live action.


So The Dark Knight Returns would be too boring? You don't think a Year One adaptation has the potential to be better than Batman Begins? I mean you just praised Under the Red Hood (an adaptation from a book) with a 9.5. So you must see that when they are good there is nothing better.

So far all the Batman movies are better movies then they are Batman movies. As a Batman fan who sees the source material (the comics) as the purest, most entertaining outlet for Batman the only way I see Batman being accurately portrayed & fully realized on screen is direct adaptation of his previous stories. All the movies get a few things right but miss the mark almost as much as they hit it.

[Renegade_1975]

Vin Desiel as Batman??? Does a Penguin pee in the desert??

The Rock as Batman??? Is Castro a captialist??

No offence but what the hell are some of you people thinking when you suggest some meathead who did a few action movies and snogged Michelle Rodriquez play Batman?

And as for all these reboots, do the movie fans a favor and LEAVE THEM THE HELL ALONE!!!!

[Hadi]

vin desiel as batman??? Does a penguin pee in the desert??

The rock as batman??? Is castro a captialist??

No offence but what the hell are some of you people thinking when you suggest some meathead who did a few action movies and snogged michelle rodriquez play batman?

And as for all these reboots, do the movie fans a favor and leave them the hell alone!!!!

this!!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^

[gotham_knight_lives]

Vin Desiel as Batman??? Does a Penguin pee in the desert??

The Rock as Batman??? Is Castro a captialist??

No offence but what the hell are some of you people thinking when you suggest some meathead who did a few action movies and snogged Michelle Rodriquez play Batman?

And as for all these reboots, do the movie fans a favor and LEAVE THEM THE HELL ALONE!!!!

Hahaha, amen brother!

[Old_BenKenobi]

Adapting a specific story is not guaranteed to lead to a better adaptation of the character, despite what you seem to think. All it does is create more ways for them to screw it up by adapting an entire story rather than just a few characters.

Batman is bigger than a single story. He is bigger than Year One. He is bigger than The Long Halloween. He is bigger than Hush (I think those last two would make lousy movies anyways). Batman is 70 years of stories. To just work from one of those hundreds (or thousands) of stories is just ridiculous. Just working from a single Batman story won't create the epitome of Batman. It will just recreate that particular incarnation of Batman.

What needs to be done is for all the essential elements of Batman to be distilled and made into a work that represents the "ideal" version of the character. Batman TAS did this, why can't the filmmakers? Its not like its impossible to do it in live action. Iron Man did it. Iron Man took Tony Stark, Pepper Potts, Rhodey and Obidiah Stane, put them in a juicer and made a big glass of kickass movie. The best part is the Iron Man suit. I hate the black rubber batsuit they use in the Batman movies. I think its disrespectful to all the great artists who have drawn it and to Bob Kane especially. Iron Man did it right. They actually made the armour and made it look great. It looks like what the Iron Man armour would look like if someone built a suit of armour based on the Iron Man books while the rubber batsuit looks like armour some dude would make if he was actually going out at night. And the end result is lame! If they applied that to Iron Man the result would be a boiler with a minigun on top and thats not nearly as cool.

So yeah, I think just adapting the existing books is a waste of creative potential and I think theres a better way to approach Batman.

[gotham_knight_lives]

Adapting a specific story is not guaranteed to lead to a better adaptation of the character, despite what you seem to think. All it does is create more ways for them to screw it up by adapting an entire story rather than just a few characters.

Batman is bigger than a single story. He is bigger than Year One. He is bigger than The Long Halloween. He is bigger than Hush (I think those last two would make lousy movies anyways). Batman is 70 years of stories. To just work from one of those hundreds (or thousands) of stories is just ridiculous. Just working from a single Batman story won't create the epitome of Batman. It will just recreate that particular incarnation of Batman.

What needs to be done is for all the essential elements of Batman to be distilled and made into a work that represents the "ideal" version of the character. Batman TAS did this, why can't the filmmakers? Its not like its impossible to do it in live action. Iron Man did it. Iron Man took Tony Stark, Pepper Potts, Rhodey and Obidiah Stane, put them in a juicer and made a big glass of kickass movie. The best part is the Iron Man suit. I hate the black rubber batsuit they use in the Batman movies. I think its disrespectful to all the great artists who have drawn it and to Bob Kane especially. Iron Man did it right. They actually made the armour and made it look great. It looks like what the Iron Man armour would look like if someone built a suit of armour based on the Iron Man books while the rubber batsuit looks like armour some dude would make if he was actually going out at night. And the end result is lame! If they applied that to Iron Man the result would be a boiler with a minigun on top and thats not nearly as cool.

So yeah, I think just adapting the existing books is a waste of creative potential and I think theres a better way to approach Batman.

I completely agree with this! And the movie outfits for the most part were bad looking. I don't mind the all black look, but could they at least not make it look like think, ugly rubber? However, at least in the dark knight it didn't look like rubber at all, it actually looked like a sort of metal.

[Matches Malone]

TAS may have represented the ideal version for you but not for everybody, certainly not me. Thats the problem with an ongoing story. There are some who just don't like the current generation films as there are those who don't like the previous generations. You can't expect to make a Batman movie that will please everyone. Why not treat Batman movies like the novels? Using different directors doing completely different takes on the character & different visual styles. Each movie different & mostly self contained.

I can back down from comic adaptations no problem, but I'd like it if directors did 1-2 movies then stepped away & let someone else take a stab at it to keep it fresh, get more variety & see what all can be done with complete freedom.

You guys really want movies to be made within the Nolanverse for the rest of time? TDKR could never be made in the Nolanverse for a number of reasons, you could force it in but that would make me very, very sad.

Batman has yet to be represented as grand as he is in the comics on the screen (haven't watched my copy of Red Hood yet so this may change judging from the trailers & reviews) from his appearance to his intelligence & to his abilities. TAS is the closest but its not good enough & it wasn't live action either.

Like I said the Batman movies that have been made make better movies than they do Batman movies.

[MCREF]

Back to the topic, I don't think Vinny D could pull off two contrasting characters like Bruce Wayne/Batman let alone just one complicated character. He's good for mindless action movies, which isn't an insult to him. You need to have action movies now and then that aren't up there own EXPLETIVE with story. I don't even think he would even work for an animated Batman either. He sounds like he'd be a better villain imo for either live action or animated.

[Old_BenKenobi]

TAS may have represented the ideal version for you but not for everybody, certainly not me. Thats the problem with an ongoing story. There are some who just don't like the current generation films as there are those who don't like the previous generations. You can't expect to make a Batman movie that will please everyone. Why not treat Batman movies like the novels? Using different directors doing completely different takes on the character & different visual styles. Each movie different & mostly self contained.

I can back down from comic adaptations no problem, but I'd like it if directors did 1-2 movies then stepped away & let someone else take a stab at it to keep it fresh, get more variety & see what all can be done with complete freedom.

You guys really want movies to be made within the Nolanverse for the rest of time? TDKR could never be made in the Nolanverse for a number of reasons, you could force it in but that would make me very, very sad.

Batman has yet to be represented as grand as he is in the comics on the screen (haven't watched my copy of Red Hood yet so this may change judging from the trailers & reviews) from his appearance to his intelligence & to his abilities. TAS is the closest but its not good enough & it wasn't live action either.

Like I said the Batman movies that have been made make better movies than they do Batman movies.

The benefit of having an ongoing story or continuity is character development. Being able to develop characters over the course of multiple movies allows for more complex stories and an ultimately deeper experience. Doing the movies independant of each other in their own continuity removes that aspect and means the filmmakers can't build anything more substantial than what a two and a half hour movie allows.

I still don't think what you're proposing would directly improve Batman's character in the movies and I don't think a series of standalone movies based on the various comic storylines is a good idea. Why should they go only to the comics for stories? Why can't they come up with their own story? Whats wrong with that? They're already doing that with the animated movies anyway so why do we need two ongoing series of standalone comic book adaptations?

I'm sorry, but its just a terrible idea IMO.

[Hadi]

Like I said the Batman movies that have been made make better movies than they do Batman movies.

this line make no sense.

[butterskenny]

this line make no sense.



I think he saying that as movies, they're good, but dont really do justice to Batman

[Hadi]

The Dark Knight did him justice. There was no one who walked out of the theater and said it sucked.

[thebatman226]

Like I said the Batman movies that have been made make better movies than they do Batman movies.

That's exactly how I feel. TDK was an insane experience, but it didn't feel like I was watching Batman.

[Batman The Trailer Hunter]

Why would Vin diesel want to act batman anyway?

[EliteF50]

The Dark Knight did him justice. There was no one who walked out of the theater and said it sucked.

Me.

Well, I though it was good coming out of the theater, but the next day, I realized its flaws. And there were many.

[Creature of the Night]

My Other List for actors to play batman

Johnny Depp

Ben Affleck

David Borenza

Cillian Murphy

Channing Tatum

Jake Gyllenhaal

Vince Vaughn

Jensen Ackles

Tom Jane

Ray Stevenson

Mickey Rourke (TDKR)

Josh Brolin

[EliteF50]

John. Hamm.

[Hadi]

Me.

Well, I though it was good coming out of the theater, but the next day, I realized its flaws. And there were many.

case and point you still walked out saying it was good

[Hadi]

John. Hamm.

theres no way a mad man could play batman

[EliteF50]

case and point you still walked out saying it was good

I was pleased with it, I didn't think it was better than the other Batfilms (except for BF, B&R) though.

theres no way a mad man could play batman

Why not? He's perfect for the role.

[Joe Chill]

No, no, no --- a thousand times.

No Dwayne Johnson, either. My gosh.

My Other List for actors to play batman

Johnny Depp

Ben Affleck

David Borenza

Cillian Murphy

Channing Tatum

Jake Gyllenhaal

Vince Vaughn

Jensen Ackles

Tom Jane

Ray Stevenson

Mickey Rourke (TDKR)

Josh Brolin

:(

[Renegade_1975]

I would rather see Christina Hendericks (phwwooar!!) play Batman than Vin Desiel or the Rock. Next you'll be saying that Stone Cold Steve Austin should be playing Robin... Imagine that.

"Listen here Two Face you S-O-B, I'm gonn sit atop the Batmobile with a cold beer and watch Batman kick your ass. If any one here agree's with me give me a HEELLL YEEEAAAHH!!!"

No, Wrong, Fail, Facepalm, take your pick...

[EliteF50]

My pick? Badass.

Batman: "Hey, jabroni!"
Bane: "My name's not Jabroni, it's --"
Batman: It doesn't matter what your name is! Now, I'm gonna grab my Batboot, turn it sideways, and stick it up your candy ass!"
Robin: "Hell yeah!" *Smashes beer together*
Bane: I will crush you!
Batman: "Just Bring it."

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LOL. :D No but seriously, I can see Dwayne as Batman. He's one of my favourite actors and I can see it working. BUT, I know it will never happen. So... JON HAMM NEEDS TO PLAY BATMAN!

[Matches Malone]

this line make no sense.

Thats your problem not mine. It makes perfect sense.

[Hadi]

I was pleased with it, I didn't think it was better than the other Batfilms (except for BF, B&R) though.



Why not? He's perfect for the role.

Says one person. no to jon hamm, no dwayne, neither of them will never get a chance ever. We need real good acters for Batman. If kevin conroy was a bit younger he would be my suggestion.

[Hadi]

Thats your problem not mine. It makes perfect sense.

I expected you to explain it better but never mind someone has done it before you. :rasp:

[EliteF50]

Says one person. no to jon hamm, no dwayne, neither of them will never get a chance ever. We need real good acters for Batman. If kevin conroy was a bit younger he would be my suggestion.

How is Jon Hamm a bad actor? And yes, if Conroy was younger, he would definitely be my first choice. Hell, I still think he could do a Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne/Batman.

[Hadi]

When comes down to seeing who is the best actor for Batman it depends on the directer. Its the director who chooses how the character is portrayed. Its the directer who plays awsome soundtracks to go with the character. When you look at a super hero movie, dont judge the movie based on its characters but by its director.

[EliteF50]

When comes down to seeing who is the best actor for Batman it depends on the directer. Its the director who chooses how the character is portrayed. Its the directer who plays awsome soundtracks to go with the character. When you look at a super hero movie, dont judge the movie based on its characters but by its director.

Very true. My choice of director would be Zack Snyder.

[Renegade_1975]

Very true. My choice of director would be Zack Snyder.

I can see this happening in the near future... Snyder is Awesome

[EliteF50]

I can see this happening in the near future... Snyder is Awesome

Yes he is. I love how stylized his movies are. Watchmen and 300 have the best cinematography I have ever seen in a movie. I think he would do great justice to Batman.

[Renegade_1975]

Yes he is. I love how stylized his movies are. Watchmen and 300 have the best cinematography I have ever seen in a movie. I think he would do great justice to Batman.

Agreed, some 300 style slowdowns during epic fight scenes would be excellent.

Lets just hope we don't get a Nite Owl/Silk Spectre *ahem* 'scene' (the one in Archie... Yes THAT scene) featuring Batman and Catwoman in the Batmobile.

Halleula?? :rolleyes:

I'm also thinking some Sin City style photography, not black and white, but less colour than Burton's or Nolan's.

The perfect Batman movie would be a adaptation of Batman: Year One. With Snyder Directing, Ryan Reynolds as Bruce Wayne/Batman, Gary Oldman as Jim Gordon, and if the Rock has to be in it, as Detective Flass, then I can watch him get his arse handed to him by one of the best British actors of my generation (You know my wife cannot believe Oldman plays Gordon and Sirus Black in those movies about the emo wizard boy... What are they called again?)

[EliteF50]

Agreed, some 300 style slowdowns during epic fight scenes.

Lets just hope we don't get a Nite Owl/Silk Spectre *ahem* 'scene' (the one in Archie... Yes THAT scene) featuring Batman and Catwoman in the Batmobile.

Halleula?? :rolleyes:

Lol, I doubt Warner would allow him to do that. But yeah, some gory, close up, slow-mo fight scenes would be amazing.

[Hadi]

-_-

[EliteF50]

-_-

Got something to say, Hadi? :D

[Renegade_1975]

Lol, I doubt Warner would allow him to do that. But yeah, some gory, close up, slow-mo fight scenes would be amazing.

Yeah, a few CG slowdowns where you see a close up of Batman's fist impacting on a villian's face and flattening the nose and specs of blood arcing out in all directions from the nostrils and his mouth as his head reels back.

The more I think about it the more I want it to happen :cool:

[EliteF50]

Yeah, a few CG slowdowns where you see a close up of Batman's fist impacting on a villian's face and flattening the nose and specs of blood arcing out in all directions from the nostrils and his mouth as his head reels back.

The more I think about it the more I want it to happen :cool:

Yeah! That would definitely be cooler than Nolan's shaky cam, robot-ish fight scenes with Bale.

[DarkVictory]

To answer the original question: No. A thousand times no. And no again.

Batman is not about the look. He doesn't have to look like a part time bodybuilder to be badass. Preferably, he should look in shape, but the ability of the actor is a million more important.

And neither Rock (who I like as an actor and thought was a very talented wrestler) nor Vin Diesel have me buying that they can pull of that character in anything other but a stylized crap-fest.


As for the other interesting discussion in this thread... So The Dark Knight Returns would be too boring? You don't think a Year One adaptation has the potential to be better than Batman Begins? I mean you just praised Under the Red Hood (an adaptation from a book) with a 9.5. So you must see that when they are good there is nothing better. A Dark Knight Returns films would probably be awesome if done right... but Year One better than Batman Begins? Yes, anything is possible, but for the most part, they did most of the great stuff in Year One in Begins, so the movie would look like a rehash of an already good movie, plus, if current Frank Miller was involved, the script he was writing for a Year One film adaptation would have been awful.

So far all the Batman movies are better movies then they are Batman movies. As a Batman fan who sees the source material (the comics) as the purest, most entertaining outlet for Batman the only way I see Batman being accurately portrayed & fully realized on screen is direct adaptation of his previous stories. All the movies get a few things right but miss the mark almost as much as they hit it. However, the 'purest' source material of Batman has a million and one different versions. I'm certain you aren't referring to the original Bat-Man appearances, so what makes any other comic book adaptation of Batman more pure than the film versions? Frank Miller's Batman (who you seem to revere) is far further (at least in the All-Star and DKSA versions) from the 'pure' Batman of the (current) canon than Burton's, Nolan's, or (as hard as it is to say it) even Schumacher's.

Yet, you suggest two of his Batman tales (admittedly, the ones where Batman is closest to his current canon counterpart) as ones to be made. I just don't understand how we can say these guys 'missed the mark', but for whatever reason Dennis O'Neill or Frank Miller or Grant Morrison haven't when none of their 'Batman's are the same as the others.

I can back down from comic adaptations no problem, but I'd like it if directors did 1-2 movies then stepped away & let someone else take a stab at it to keep it fresh, get more variety & see what all can be done with complete freedom. This would be fun for a few of us Bat-nuts (actually, I personally wouldn't like it because of the repercussions which I will soon discuss, but many others probably wouldn't care) but major movie studios would have no interest in doing that.

As BenKenobi already mentioned, it creates a less satisfying experience for the film-goer because each time he goes to the film he has to get acquainted to a brand new character. By the nature of this process, we'll also get a lot, lot, lot of rehash because since each new film is a 'new' Batman movie, they have to reestablish the characters all over again. The filmmakers simply can't count on the comic book Batman fans knowledge of the comic book mythos and build upon those, because large scale films are designed for movie-goers, not comic readers and they can't rely on what was set-up in previous Bat-Films because these are supposed to be in a different Bat-universe.

Thus we will cover the same ground in film after film.

And movie studios aren't going to want to do this because rebooting a film franchise isn't as easy as producing a one-shot or rebooting a comic book. The medium are so entirely different in terms of scale of production that they have to sink millions and millions of dollars into each new Batman vision, with no guarantees that fans will like the new vision as much as the last one.



Adapting a specific story is not guaranteed to lead to a better adaptation of the character, despite what you seem to think. All it does is create more ways for them to screw it up by adapting an entire story rather than just a few characters.

Batman is bigger than a single story. He is bigger than Year One. He is bigger than The Long Halloween. He is bigger than Hush (I think those last two would make lousy movies anyways). Batman is 70 years of stories. To just work from one of those hundreds (or thousands) of stories is just ridiculous. Just working from a single Batman story won't create the epitome of Batman. It will just recreate that particular incarnation of Batman.

What needs to be done is for all the essential elements of Batman to be distilled and made into a work that represents the "ideal" version of the character. Batman TAS did this, why can't the filmmakers? Its not like its impossible to do it in live action. Iron Man did it. Iron Man took Tony Stark, Pepper Potts, Rhodey and Obidiah Stane, put them in a juicer and made a big glass of kickass movie. The best part is the Iron Man suit. I hate the black rubber batsuit they use in the Batman movies. I think its disrespectful to all the great artists who have drawn it and to Bob Kane especially. Iron Man did it right. They actually made the armour and made it look great. It looks like what the Iron Man armour would look like if someone built a suit of armour based on the Iron Man books while the rubber batsuit looks like armour some dude would make if he was actually going out at night. And the end result is lame! If they applied that to Iron Man the result would be a boiler with a minigun on top and thats not nearly as cool.

So yeah, I think just adapting the existing books is a waste of creative potential and I think theres a better way to approach Batman. I agree with the first part of what you said, but you totally lost me on the second half. I mean, how is the current Batman films NOT distillation of the Batman universe? That's exactly what these films are. (Specifically, the two films are mostly distillations of three of the most successful and critically acclaimed Batman interpretations - Year One, Long Halloween, and Killing Joke.)

The focus on the costume seems weird and I think the comparison to the Iron man films misses the boat. The movie Iron Man costume actually looks far different from the original (or any of the subsequent early) character designs. It's made to look more realistic. They didn't go with the red and yellow spandex look with a few detail lines to make it look like metal (which is essentially what Iron Man's comic book outfit looked like for years upon years). The filmmakers didn't go with that look because they know being 'true' to the original look sometimes has to take a backseat to what the audience will accept, and that original, comic book inspired outfit would not have been accepted by the audience (even if Jack Kirby designed the original).

The same can be said for Batman. For one, none of the current Batman artists (or any for decades) have used his original Batman look. How is it insulting to him that the filmmakers don't use a look that he didn't also make? Also, Bob Kane consulted on the first Batman film to ever use the black rubber suit and he liked it.

The black suit is a distillation of the important parts of Batman's character, and leaves out unnecessary loyalty to previous artists work. More important to the Batman character is that he is supposed to be real person who thinks tactically and his outfit imposing. The films versions of his outfit go right to this point without trying to make an outfit that looks directly like it's from one of the (many) comic book interpretations of his outfit.

Me.

Well, I though it was good coming out of the theater, but the next day, I realized its flaws. And there were many. Which were? (Not being sarcastic, I am really interested to hear what the many flaws the film had.)

Very true. My choice of director would be Zack Snyder. Am I the only one who does not go ga-ga over the idea of Zack Snyder directing Batman?

I don't want slow-motion over-hyped fight scenes and style over substance flash in my Bat-films. I certainly don't see what he would bring to the table that would be superior to what we've gotten from Nolan.

[Hadi]

Got something to say, Hadi? :D

you all are pervs:D

[mwkcope]

Says one person. no to jon hamm, no dwayne, neither of them will never get a chance ever. We need real good acters for Batman. If kevin conroy was a bit younger he would be my suggestion.

He is my suggestion,even as young Bats.Makeup ftw.:)

[Shark_Blade]

No, this will not do.

I think Orlando Bloom will make a fine Batman.
And as for Robin, someone young like Justin Bieber is nice too.[/sarcasm]

[Hadi]

No, this will not do.

I think Orlando Bloom will make a fine Batman.
And as for Robin, someone young like Justin Bieber is nice too.[/sarcasm]

I was about to throw my baterangs at you.

[mwkcope]

I was about to throw my baterangs at you.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[The Comedian]

Although Snyder does an excellent job at adapting comic books into movie, I agree that his overall style of films wouldn't really fit Batman. But thats just my opinion...

This.

99% of the film would be edited in slow motion.

[Joe Chill]

Kevin Porter is Batman, as far as I'm concerned.

[door noob]

Kevin Porter is Batman, as far as I'm concerned.

The hockey player?

[Joe Chill]

The hockey player?

Did I get the name wrong? Whoever the actor is that played Batman in "City of Scars."

[The Hylden]

You were correct, lol

[EliteF50]

Kevin Porter is Batman, as far as I'm concerned.

Agreed. He is the perfect live-action Batman.

[Joe Chill]

^ Glad you agree.

I know you're taking a lot of flak for KC being the best Batman voice over work, but I agree 1000% no one even comes close. I'm pretty sure everyone can come close to agreeing Mark Hamill is the best voice for Joker, so why can't we do the same for Batman?

[batfan08]

Kind of off-topic,but does anyone think Joseph Gordon Levit would make a good Batman Beyond.Oh,and Jon Hamm would be a damn good Batman.

[Two-Face]

I love to see Jon Hamm as Batman after Nolan finished with Batman 3.

[Zur-en-ah]

I love to see Jon Hamm as Batman after Nolan finished with Batman 3.

Loving the way Mr J Hamm is picking up a lot of support to play Batman :)

if you're a fan of Mad Men then you just know he'd make an awesome Bruce Wayne (drink in one hand, blonde on the other)

... and someone called out earlier (Hadi??) that Hamm is a weak actor - wtf?! the guy's got serious range, as he's shown thru all the awards & nominations he's picked up for just 3 seasons of Mad Men

Hamm's got the voice, the chin, the height and the acting chops to make a brilliant Batman ... am sure if he got in the gym and beefed up, he's knock it right out the park

[Two-Face]

Mad Men is a great show. the guy can act and he's got everything to play the Dark Knight.