View Full Version : Killswitch - sugestions about its title
Badmaker
06-08-2010, 06:03 AM
We all know that Unatco mechanical augmented agents in DX1, i mean Ana Navarre and Gunther Hermann had a killswitch with its individual title. I get a feeling that DX3 main character will have also an killswitch. As fans of Deus Ex saga, we should help the developers to choose an name for Adam's killswitch :).
Fluffis
06-08-2010, 06:17 AM
I'll have a go: "Third Person".
68_pie
06-08-2010, 06:40 AM
Health Regeneration?
VectorM
06-08-2010, 07:40 AM
Adam will not have a killswitch, it doesn't really make sense, considering the circumstances that he is in (as far as we know form the plot). Just because UNATCO put killswitches in their cyborgs, doesn't mean that EVERY cyborg will have one. You really think that chick in the bar had one?
He could get a killswitch as a plot device later on though.
ChrisVCB
06-08-2010, 08:18 AM
Besides, Gunther and Annas killswitches had rather immediate effects. If you followed those lines, there'd be no "I must flee to New York and find Tracer Tong before my killswitch runs out!" moment, you'd just have time for one last witty one liner before you explode, then it'd be game over.
Badmaker
06-08-2010, 10:45 AM
Mechanical augmentations are the cutting edge technology in the game. This means that all the people who are augmented, should have a system that shut them off, or even kill.
K.Karisma
06-08-2010, 11:46 AM
Mechanical augmentations are the cutting edge technology in the game. This means that all the people who are augmented, should have a system that shut them off, or even kill.
Mechanical augmentations and Killswitches dont really fit into the same category though. And the killswitches were more of a failsafe on the top Unatco agents, although I suppose a killswitch would be plausable for Adam too.
VectorM
06-08-2010, 12:21 PM
Mechanical augmentations are the cutting edge technology in the game. This means that all the people who are augmented, should have a system that shut them off, or even kill.
There is a way to turn them off already, it's called runing out of energy :rolleyes:
And I don't get your logic. Are you saying that our computers should have a way to explode too, lol? Yes, we have ways to turn them off, but that's for other reasons, not because they might turn SKYNET on us :lmao:
Badmaker
06-08-2010, 12:44 PM
@VectorM, simple question: how old are u ?
There is a way to turn them off already, it's called runing out of energy :rolleyes:
And I don't get your logic. Are you saying that our computers should have a way to explode too, lol? Yes, we have ways to turn them off, but that's for other reasons, not because they might turn SKYNET on us :lmao:
If you had played the original Deus Ex you would understand some of it's themes and moods like technology as a means to power and control as well as paranoia surrounding advance research.
As far as you equating being at the top of the food chain in a futuristic dystopia with your xbox... a computer isn't classified technology. Even so some computers cellphones will wipe themselves clean after a few login failures and can be setup to be remotely wiped. If you were working on something important enough you might want the hardware to be destroyed too...
I'm probably wasting my time.
Hertzila
06-08-2010, 04:52 PM
Adam isn't really a top agent of anybody. He's only a security expert, one that could very well be having a sick leave. No point whatsoever giving him anykind of killswitch. A way to externally shut off limb augs, maybe but not a damn C4 explosive (or a similar device to cause such an explosion) secretly installed in him. Just because it's cutting-edge doesn't mean it's classified. Unless every aug comes from the same corporation, there's no point in making the hardware disappear.
As far as you equating being at the top of the food chain in a futuristic dystopia with your xbox... a computer isn't classified technology. Even so some computers cellphones will wipe themselves clean after a few login failures and can be setup to be remotely wiped. If you were working on something important enough you might want the hardware to be destroyed too...
That's the software (or more clearly, the information) being wiped out to prevent important stuff from slipping to unwanted people. It might be your personal journal, corporate secrets or top secret experimental weapon. But the cell phone itself is not/doesn't have any secret tech you'd want to hide now, is/has it? And as said above, unless one corporation has a monopoly on augs, then very clearly how to make them is not a top level secret for anybody.
Fluffis
06-08-2010, 04:55 PM
Adam isn't really a top agent of anybody. He's only a security expert, one that could very well be having a sick leave. No point whatsoever giving him anykind of killswitch. A way to externally shut off limb augs, maybe but not a damn C4 explosive (or a similar device to cause such an explosion) secretly installed in him. Just because it's cutting-edge doesn't mean it's classified. Unless every aug comes from the same corporation, there's no point in making the hardware disappear.
It could be Adam turns out to be the reason why they think they need Killswitches later...
Pinky_Powers
06-08-2010, 04:59 PM
Adam isn't really a top agent of anybody. He's only a security expert, one that could very well be having a sick leave.
Do we know that for sure? I thought the Who & Why of his augmentations were largely secret. With those two questions unanswered I don't see how we could possibly be so certain about the killswitch issue.
It could be Adam turns out to be the reason why they think they need Killswitches later...
Now that is a worthwhile thought.
Hertzila
06-08-2010, 05:45 PM
Do we know that for sure? I thought the Who & Why of his augmentations were largely secret. With those two questions unanswered I don't see how we could possibly be so certain about the killswitch issue.
Well, at least the information we've had says he's a security guy for a big corporation and a mysterious benefactor gave him the augs (probably after a bad accident). Not exactly an agent of anybody, at least yet (so no point in a killswitch at least in the initial installation).
It could be Adam turns out to be the reason why they think they need Killswitches later...
That would actually be a good idea. Adam would be the example of what happens if an augmented agent turns on his employers (possible future employers in Adam's case).
hem dazon 90
06-08-2010, 05:48 PM
@VectorM, simple question: how old are u ?
The hell does someone's age have to do with anything ?
Hertzila
06-08-2010, 06:02 PM
Another thing about killswitches: they're trying to push the augmentations into acceptable, normal things right? And to do that they would require a big amount of good press, correct? Well, imagine the amount of bad press if, theoretically, you could at any moment explode in tiny bits if you even happen to look at a certain person wrong. Even if they would be secret, if found just the potential would be a huge factor at raising the fear of getting augs in the public.
Pinky_Powers
06-09-2010, 04:17 AM
Well, at least the information we've had says he's a security guy for a big corporation and a mysterious benefactor gave him the augs (probably after a bad accident). Not exactly an agent of anybody, at least yet (so no point in a killswitch at least in the initial installation).
That logic is rotten and nonsensical.
Point one: Mysterious Benefactor. "mysterious" meaning potentially sinister.
Point two: You're a potentially sinister enterprise. If you construct a killing machine, it doesn't matter if he works for you or not, prudence says to build in failsafes in case he turns on you. Prudence is a heartless b17ch, but if you heed her, she can save your life.
Corpus
06-09-2010, 11:20 AM
I'm not sure about his killswitch, they might not have been invented yet. If Sarif is independent then I doubt they would have any reason to plug one in him.
Blade_hunter
06-09-2010, 12:13 PM
Your butt is augmented -> boom :nut:
Pinky_Powers
06-09-2010, 12:14 PM
Oh jeez... it's happening.
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