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JAGeng
03-13-2010, 10:18 AM
Im very disappointed to see this annoying mistake crossover from JC1 to JC2....see, there is no connection between the Metropolis and Desert areas of the game....no bridge, no road, nothing damn it....why did they do it that way? theyre next to each other.

I complained that in JC1 many sectors that were next to each other, separated by a short stretch of water werent connected by a bridge....so if you were driving and needed to get to the neighboring area you had to ditch your car and swim across....stupid idea.

so now if I am at the desert and want to get to the city and I were just there looking at it from the other side, I cant go across in the car, or I would have to drive a very, very, very long way around half the island to get to the ONLY road access to the city!

that is so stupid! Just look at the map and imagine yourself at the farthest north of the desert looking at the farthest south of the city right there across the water....now say to yourself "Ok now I want to drive this vehicle to that city I see there" see how far you must drive? to get to a place that is in your view?

they should have made a bridge across the desert and the city...I condemn the fact that they made the same BIG mistake that was made in JC1 and it totally restricts your mobility while driving....bad, bad, bad choice.

Ineedascotch
03-13-2010, 10:24 AM
Because cars are the only mode of transportation in JC2.

wisejord
03-13-2010, 10:28 AM
Because cars are the only mode of transportation in JC2.

NO they arent.... where did you hear that?

demonkidproductions
03-13-2010, 10:28 AM
What are you on about? 0_o. you mean how the bridges outside the demo area don't load?

EDIT: or am i just majorly missing something and being stupid?

wisejord
03-13-2010, 10:29 AM
why do you care about small things like that, no bridge... GET A PLANE/HELICOPTER/BOAT
and it is not a BIG mistake... stop whining

JustBecause_2010
03-13-2010, 10:29 AM
NO they arent.... where did you hear that?
You need a sarcasm detector.

Also grapple a car to a heli, and fly it across.

Rico Rodriguez (Cudel)
03-13-2010, 10:30 AM
Im very disappointed to see this annoying mistake crossover from JC1 to JC2....see, there is no connection between the Metropolis and Desert areas of the game....no bridge, no road, nothing damn it....why did they do it that way? theyre next to each other.

I complained that in JC1 many sectors that were next to each other, separated by a short stretch of water werent connected by a bridge....so if you were driving and needed to get to the neighboring area you had to ditch your car and swim across....stupid idea.

so now if I am at the desert and want to get to the city and I were just there looking at it from the other side, I cant go across in the car, or I would have to drive a very, very, very long way around half the island to get to the ONLY road access to the city!

that is so stupid! Just look at the map and imagine yourself at the farthest north of the desert looking at the farthest south of the city right there across the water....now say to yourself "Ok now I want to drive this vehicle to that city I see there" see how far you must drive? to get to a place that is in your view?

they should have made a bridge across the desert and the city...I condemn the fact that they made the same BIG mistake that was made in JC1 and it totally restricts your mobility while driving....bad, bad, bad choice.

LOL this thread is sooo pointles acctually jc2 has the most awesome scenery a game can have so i will enjoy to drive around the island and second do you know the word vertical Gameplay !!!!! thats the point in real life its exactly the same i was once in my life in malaysia (panau) and its true that you cant alwys get the best way sometimes you need to go to an AIRPORT and fly to the citiy and thats fun and its more realistic then having thousands of bridges i dont get it how people can be so bored that they nee to write such threads i mean common! this game has 104 vehicles (without special ones) and you have 7 helicopters and 7 plains and you can order some of them so why driving in a lame taxi LOL

qwertyalex11
03-13-2010, 10:33 AM
i woulda just got the quapaw and grappled the car to it... but if there was no quapaw...jump it!

compatible
03-13-2010, 10:40 AM
err humm , there are bridges in the game connecting the desert and the citys , they have been taken out for the demo , if that's what your going on about , if not here another answer how point less would a straight road be from the desert straight to the city of coarse you have to drive over or around hills and mountains to get some were , please tell me in what game they have a straight road going from point a to point b , how boring would that be .
If none of these answers have responded to your rant , well i haven't a clue what your on about sorry ..

JAGeng
03-13-2010, 10:49 AM
theres too many dumb people here....What if I just feel like driving there???? isnt this game about freedom? well forcing me to use a different way of transportation is not freedom....I just like driving....so thats that....its stupid....just like it was in JC1.

FilbertFarmer
03-13-2010, 10:54 AM
theres too many dumb people here....What if I just feel like driving there???? isnt this game about freedom? well forcing me to use a different way of transportation is not freedom....I just like driving....so thats that....its stupid....just like it was in JC1.
If you like driving so much why not take the scenic route everywhere?

Big Isy
03-13-2010, 11:00 AM
I'm putting it down to Paunau being a developing country. It's got some good stuff, just not quite there yet. You can see to the west on the map there's some bridges connecting various islands but on the whole? Nah. The government is filling its pockets!

AssassinAgent47
03-13-2010, 11:09 AM
I lived in hawaii for 12 years , this happens in real life, sometimes we had to go all the way around the island to get to a certain place, just because there were no roads through the middle of the island.

NovaSilisko
03-13-2010, 11:13 AM
I lived in hawaii for 12 years , this happens in real life, sometimes we had to go all the way around the island to get to a certain place, just because there were no roads through the middle of the island.

I think that's because of the volcano :whistle:

Speaking of which...

wisejord
03-13-2010, 11:14 AM
You need a sarcasm detector.

Also grapple a car to a heli, and fly it across.

sorry , can't see sarcasm in text, and lol, didnt think of doing that, Lurrrrv the freedom in this game :)

MiracleMax
03-13-2010, 11:37 AM
Im very disappointed to see this annoying mistake crossover from JC1 to JC2....see, there is no connection between the Metropolis and Desert areas of the game....no bridge, no road, nothing damn it....why did they do it that way? theyre next to each other.

I complained that in JC1 many sectors that were next to each other, separated by a short stretch of water werent connected by a bridge....so if you were driving and needed to get to the neighboring area you had to ditch your car and swim across....stupid idea.

so now if I am at the desert and want to get to the city and I were just there looking at it from the other side, I cant go across in the car, or I would have to drive a very, very, very long way around half the island to get to the ONLY road access to the city!

that is so stupid! Just look at the map and imagine yourself at the farthest north of the desert looking at the farthest south of the city right there across the water....now say to yourself "Ok now I want to drive this vehicle to that city I see there" see how far you must drive? to get to a place that is in your view?

they should have made a bridge across the desert and the city...I condemn the fact that they made the same BIG mistake that was made in JC1 and it totally restricts your mobility while driving....bad, bad, bad choice.

I still can't tell... are you complaining about no connection and using the demo as your source of evidence or are you using the full game? because there is a LOAD of difference ( did you see what I did there...)

STMaraj
03-13-2010, 11:42 AM
Although it's is not too much of a big deal to me, I do think it is pretty silly of them not to have at leaste one bridge connecting the desert to the city. OP, you make a very valid point.

And to all those ignorant people in this thread, just look at the map: http://uppix.net/4/d/3/b4fadbb7a3408d101779c18c4a9b0.html

NovaSilisko
03-13-2010, 11:43 AM
I don't see the point really. Just grab a helicopter, or a plane, or a boat, or a car tied to a helicopter, or a helicopter tied to an airliner!

Flaire
03-13-2010, 11:52 AM
How do you know there isn't a bridge, the bit between the desert and the metropolis is outside of the demo area, and bridges don't load there.

Show us your proof!

NovaSilisko
03-13-2010, 11:54 AM
just look at the map: http://uppix.net/4/d/3/b4fadbb7a3408d101779c18c4a9b0.html

I think that's proof...

HHDnBKing!
03-13-2010, 11:58 AM
How do you know there isn't a bridge, the bit between the desert and the metropolis is outside of the demo area, and bridges don't load there.

Show us your proof!

Check your demo map, you'l see no bridges.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6049/jc2ma.jpg

JAGeng I understand your point but at least you can Dual-it to a blackmarket (As you can get it delivered to you rather then going even more out your way) heli or plane and drop it off.

NovaSilisko
03-13-2010, 12:00 PM
Hmm... It would have been a neat touch to add a bridge under construction between the 2 areas. There very well might be since the demo doesn't include meshes from outside it's area.

Flaire
03-13-2010, 12:44 PM
Check your demo map, you'l see no bridges.

Well that's partly the point - we know there are bridges in the game, but they don't show up on the map, so how can you tell from this that there is no bridge between the desert and the metropolis?

EDIT: I think that's proof...

I haven't seen that map, cool, thanks for that, anyway, I assume by the metropolis you mean the mid left string of islands, while there isn't a bridge, you can probably drive up to the water and parachute over most of the water...

Trinitykill
03-13-2010, 12:46 PM
although in real life you do need to fly across to multiple islands,
PLUS don't forget that Panau isn't exactly rich, it is a war-torn country, with rebels and factions etc.
PLUS Pandak Panay is a dictator, he doesn't care about the people of Panau, i don't think he is going to spend his million dollar mansion fund on helping some guy build a 100km bridge so that a few people can drive instead of buying a flight.

cbrookf
03-13-2010, 12:48 PM
theres too many dumb people here....What if I just feel like driving there???? isnt this game about freedom? well forcing me to use a different way of transportation is not freedom....I just like driving....so thats that....its stupid....just like it was in JC1.

nobodies forcing you to do anything... just because the panau construction committee didn't personally call you up and ask for your input doesn't mean you have to ditch a car every time you want to go from desert to city. Would it be nice if it had the bridge? yes, does it really matter that much, no. Logically why would they want dune buggies driving right into paved streets and sports cars going onto a dirt road...

Sadistic_Sandbox_Player
03-13-2010, 12:50 PM
Calm down people. I understand what you mean JAGeng, but I'll have to disagree here. The map is huge and there are a lot of islands. Some of them can be connected, but all of them united by bridges would be very strange. I like it this way

ads_legend
03-13-2010, 01:39 PM
drive the car onto a boat then dual attach it to the boat so it doesnt fall off then drive the boat to where you need to go then undo the grapple and drive off

ColeScheffler
03-13-2010, 02:39 PM
A bridge connecting the city to the desert would be super long. There are also going to be docks and ports with boats/ships docked there, it won't be hard to get to the city.

xbox360kris
03-13-2010, 05:18 PM
i woulda just got the quapaw and grappled the car to it... but if there was no quapaw...jump it!

I hate it when I want to do that but damage my vehicle anyway because the damned grapple makes or 1. Cracks in the windshield or 2. Get I nasty dent or 3. Both

JAGeng
03-13-2010, 05:46 PM
I still can't tell... are you complaining about no connection and using the demo as your source of evidence or are you using the full game? because there is a LOAD of difference ( did you see what I did there...)

Im basing my affirmation in the real map of the game where there is no bridge connecting the desert island and the city district when theyre right next to each other and only separated by a river....

this was something I criticized in JC1 as sometimes I wanted to drive a particular vehicle I was driving to another place and couldnt do it because those 2 places werent connected

I thought they would fix that because it was annoying in JC1...and in JC2 although it may not seem like a big deal you will notice the absence of that bridge....

at some point you will be at the desert and for some reason have to go to the city at the north but dont want to leave your vehicle because you paid for it, or its a rare vehicle and then, Oh oh....

youre there at the shore, staring at the city at the other side, so close, but you must leave your precious vehicle there and pay for a boat or a chopper, if youre broke then go look for one back in the desert,...

a waste of time if youre in a hurry, or a waste of money if you dont have much, when there should just be a bridge there so you could just drive all the way over to the city at the other side of the river...

you will miss that bridge as you play, believe me, I missed some bridges in JC1 and I will miss that bridge any time I am in the desert or in the city and wanting having to go across.

NovaSilisko
03-13-2010, 05:58 PM
I have a tendency to destroy unique vehicles without trying so it won't be much of a problem for me.

FlyWire
03-13-2010, 06:06 PM
Im basing my affirmation in the real map of the game where there is no bridge connecting the desert island and the city district when theyre right next to each other and only separated by a river....

this was something I criticized in JC1 as sometimes I wanted to drive a particular vehicle I was driving to another place and couldnt do it because those 2 places werent connected

I thought they would fix that because it was annoying in JC1...and in JC2 although it may not seem like a big deal you will notice the absence of that bridge....

at some point you will be at the desert and for some reason have to go to the city at the north but dont want to leave your vehicle because you paid for it, or its a rare vehicle and then, Oh oh....

youre there at the shore, staring at the city at the other side, so close, but you must leave your precious vehicle there and pay for a boat or a chopper, if youre broke then go look for one back in the desert,...

a waste of time if youre in a hurry, or a waste of money if you dont have much, when there should just be a bridge there so you could just drive all the way over to the city at the other side of the river...

you will miss that bridge as you play, believe me, I missed some bridges in JC1 and I will miss that bridge any time I am in the desert or in the city and wanting having to go across.

You didnt notice the long scenic road?

You must go to the east, take the highway to the north and turn into the city, looking the indirect way works ;)

Captain-Matt
03-13-2010, 06:10 PM
drive the car onto a boat then dual attach it to the boat so it doesnt fall off then drive the boat to where you need to go then undo the grapple and drive off



I used to do that in JC1 anyway. No grapple required. Was enough space on the back deck of the Triton Broadsider to stick a car on to take it to the island you start on (the one thats not connected)
I'd take the yellow Rioja car with the machine guns across, sail all the way up the river to offload at the city.

MiracleMax
03-13-2010, 06:15 PM
I, to date, have not missed a single exploded vehicle...

Cycieties
03-13-2010, 06:18 PM
I admit it does seem absolutely silly that the desert isn't on the same landmass as the more humid part of the island(s) but in the original Just Cause it wouldn't of worked easily geographically to make a bridge over a giant expanse of water, even if it wouldn't make sense in real life not to connect the northeastern islands and the central islands. Still, it did encourage the user to ditch the car and go for a boat/aircraft and restricted how far the player could initially go. There was only one airport on the northeastern area.

AssassinAgent47
03-13-2010, 07:04 PM
I think that's because of the volcano :whistle:

Speaking of which...


only the big island has an active volcano

the island I lived on (MAUI) had dormant volcanos and a plateau between them , where roads can easily be built

they did this on Oahu by building H-1 freeway

but the budget would be way too high to build roads when roads already exist

they attempted to build roads , but the state budget wasn't enough to cover the cost , so the road plan was canceled

actually all of the hawaiian islands are a chain of volcanos some alive some dead some sleeping

so all roads on every part of hawaii are built on volcanos

make one step on the ground anywhere in hawaii and you standing on volcano

NovaSilisko
03-13-2010, 07:34 PM
Didn't know which part of the islands you lived on. I was (incorrectly) assuming you were on the big island, since it has the active volcanoes.

Pellaes
03-13-2010, 11:38 PM
Will there be cars on the other side? Yes. How long does the average car with you inside tend to stay intact? Probably less than a minute. As previously stated, you can take a car over, but there are probably cars that are just as nice on the other side. My suggestion is to ditch the cars and grab a Hamaya Cougar 600!