PodCast 4 has given some very bad news :(

[JustCause.i.can]

Well listern to it and after the interview with the 2 girls he answers Q's and basically says no to all the cool things like; grapplering a car to a plane and jumping out and into the car below is a no-no and you cant grapple a plane to a building and you cant repair a vechile at all! dam, i hope other stuff makes up for this.

[matonking]

Well listern to it and after the interview with the 2 girls he answers Q's and basically says no to all the cool things like; grapplering a car to a plane and jumping out and into the car below is a no-no and you cant grapple a plane to a building and you cant repair a vechile at all! dam, i hope other stuff makes up for this.

you cant grapple a plane to a building?? why the hell not!!

[JustCause.i.can]

you cant grapple a plane to a building?? why the hell not!!

The Q was "can the grapple snap, would it snap if you grappled a plane to a building?" [well something like that] and MCM answerered "yes, the grapple would snap so you unfortunatly cant grapple a plane to a solid structure" [again im remembering it from memory, its just basically what he said]

[LIGHTS]

face it. it's reality. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/oh.gif





besides, only Batman's grappling hook line doesn't snap unless tampered with..

[jeffkeuh]

thats not so bad..., its not really a problem to me ;)

[Detective Zippy]

Its probably just a way to stop people re-creating 9-11 incidients etc.. and uploading videos on the PS3 version, probably for the best.

Just think, for every piece of bad news/thing you cannot do, there are 20 good things/things you can do, if not more :)

[matonking]

well do you remember the other thing people said they wanted to do..

tether the ski-lift to another ski-lift going the opposite direction, i guess that means its going to snap. :(

this sucks, theres like 100 ideas just thrown out ... AGAIN. :(

this game seems to get more and more dissapointing as the closing weeks to release.

I dont see why they cant make the tether invinsible.

[brauny]

yea i dont understand it either, but no game can be perfect to everyone. when i first heard of this game i pictured myself making multiple attachments and that was shot down fast too. i jus hope this game doesnt disappoint.

[matonking]

yea i dont understand it either, but no game can be perfect to everyone. when i first heard of this game i pictured myself making multiple attachments and that was shot down fast too. i jus hope this game doesnt disappoint.

yeah i know, but its the simple things like these that can make a huge difference.

limitation is the biggest killer for a game.

a 'snappable' tether is a major limitation in my view.

thats one of the things everyone talked about for months now.. tethering a plane to the ground as it takes off to see it nose dive.. I GUESS NOT! :mad2:

[QCypher]

He didnt say you couldnt do the plane and car thing. He said he just hasnt ever done it and thinks its not possible. But we should prove him wrong!

[Big Isy]

You know, and I may be in the minority here, but I don't think that's so bad. I kind of expected most of that stuff to not be possible anyway. The grappling hook has to have some limits to its strengths and a plane pushing lord knows how much power should be more than enough to cause it to snap.

[Viralwhite]

::sigh:: You guys realize there are limitations to everything, right? :hmm:

[mycoldman]

Don't read too much into it guys. It's not as cut and dry as it WILL snap every time, it's just the fact that it CAN snap in those situations. It depends on a lot of things, like size of plane, the object its tethered too and all sorts.

We've done everything we can, made every decision we have for one reason alone... to keep things fun.

You'll be able to try a heck of a lot of stuff out on Thursday when the demo comes.

[matonking]

Don't read too much into it guys. It's not as cut and dry as it WILL snap every time, it's just the fact that it CAN snap in those situations. It depends on a lot of things, like size of plane, the object its tethered too and all sorts.

We've done everything we can, made every decision we have for one reason alone... to keep things fun.

You'll be able to try a heck of a lot of stuff out on Thursday when the demo comes.

hm, im just a big baby at heart.. i complain about anything :)

you never responded to my PM mcm!

[MenacingInfluence]

Yeah, Viral's got a point. Half the people on here thought this was going to be a perfect god-game. This game probably will be above-average, good even, but not great. I mean, it's probably going to have some faults that make a lot of people detract from playing it. Sure, a lot of OTHER people will still get it, but this game is definitely going to have shortcomings...a lot of moments where this'll run through your head..."Woah, if I did THAT that would be SO EPIC! Oh...wait, can't do that...? Oh...oh well. I guess I'll just tether some civilians to taxiing aircraft..."

[mycoldman]

Also, while i'm here. I should apologise for the podcast coming so late. It was recorded ages ago and subsequently is a little out of date. I'll have a more exciting episode five coming much sooner than this one did.

[AssassinsMassCasue]

Actuaully MyColdMan's answer was to the question can we grapple a HUGE PASSENGER JET to a building that doens't move or get destroyed, but a solid stucture, then would it snap. Well duh, yes, what more were u guys expecting would happen? The passanger jet plane to uproot said solid building or get stuck from not being strong enough to pull away?

However, he never said anything regard regular planes (not the hugh passenger airliners/ jumbo jets), and I'm almost sure I heard him or someone dev mention that you can tether a helicopter to something nad have it get stuck. (not in Podcast 4, before).

Anyways, don't knock it till u try it. Try setting reasonable expectations for some these games. Think of how much JC2 already does so much well or so much bigger than every other game, ever. Or "Find peace in the embrace of the goddess" (Mass Effect 2 reference for anyone that knows Samara well).

EDIT: MyColdMan has already said what I was trying to. I am fail. :( But at least he rocks and has silenced all yee great doubters. JC2 will own your life like a Fire Truck owns a Airliner

ps: great news about the new podcast coming quicker btw.

[brauny]

but u havent let us ask questions yet. i think ur workin too hard MCM, ur gettin ahead of urself lol

[Liberator mk.II]

Forgive me for the noobish question, but where can I find the podcast?

[brauny]

http://justcause.com/media

[Enkeixpress]

Also, while i'm here. I should apologise for the podcast coming so late. It was recorded ages ago and subsequently is a little out of date. I'll have a more exciting episode five coming much sooner than this one did.

Will it be longer also?

It's just that ep.4 was only like .. 24 minutes long.. & I'm pretty sure that the others were like like an hour long somewhere..

If not, Don't worry.. I really don't mind the length, man. :D

[Movura]

It's really isn't bad news at all. It's more realistic and shows you how much thought went into it.

Don't read too much into it guys. It's not as cut and dry as it WILL snap every time, it's just the fact that it CAN snap in those situations. It depends on a lot of things, like size of plane, the object its tethered too and all sorts.

We've done everything we can, made every decision we have for one reason alone... to keep things fun.

You'll be able to try a heck of a lot of stuff out on Thursday when the demo comes.

Indeed. It would be extremely unrealistic if you could tether a heavy plane to the ground or a building without it snapping (and when would you get that opportunity unless it was on the ground anyway?). As it shows in one of the Anatomy of a stunt videos, look at the sheer horsepower that plane has!

One thing I noticed playing the game was that if you tether a car to a light aircraft (such as the stunt plane seen in some of the screenshots), to a car, it will have no problem dragging it along and leaving the ground. But if you were to attach the same plane to say... another plane, it will be extremely hard to leave the ground do to it's weight.

They've really got this right!

[Viralwhite]

It's really isn't bad news at all. It's more realistic and shows you how much thought went into it.



Indeed. It would be extremely unrealistic if you could tether a heavy plane to the ground or a building without it snapping (and when would you get that opportunity unless it was on the ground anyway?). As it shows in one of the Anatomy of a stunt videos, look at the sheer horsepower that plane has!

One thing I noticed playing the game was that if you tether a car to a light aircraft (such as the stunt plane seen in some of the screenshots), to a car, it will have no problem dragging it along and leaving the ground. But if you were to attach the same plane to say... another plane, it will be extremely hard to leave the ground do to it's weight.

They've really got this right!

Speaking of horsepower, I believe that video said that the fire truck had only 250.
The Pierce Velocity has almost 520hp :whistle: - Sorry, professional firefighter day :D

[FilbertFarmer]

It's really isn't bad news at all. It's more realistic and shows you how much thought went into it.



Indeed. It would be extremely unrealistic if you could tether a heavy plane to the ground or a building without it snapping (and when would you get that opportunity unless it was on the ground anyway?). As it shows in one of the Anatomy of a stunt videos, look at the sheer horsepower that plane has!

One thing I noticed playing the game was that if you tether a car to a light aircraft (such as the stunt plane seen in some of the screenshots), to a car, it will have no problem dragging it along and leaving the ground. But if you were to attach the same plane to say... another plane, it will be extremely hard to leave the ground do to it's weight.

They've really got this right!
It wouldn't snap if it was Professor Farnsworth's Diamon Filament tether...Awww, Futurama...fond memories...

[cbrookf]

Man this sucks, so I can't fly a submarine car through a hoop of fire and in mid air jump out and kill 20 people by tethering them to a passing by seagull then tether all 20 bodies and the seagull to said submarine car and tether that to a helicopter and then get in the car and do doughnuts around the helicopter in the sky while its on fire, all at the same time doing backflips on a stunt motorcycle and clothsline passing by motorists with my quad hook while listening to my 78 different radio channels which are upgradable? Thats some bull****, not buying this stupid game....

[Rico Rodriguez (Cudel)]

Man this sucks, so I can't fly a submarine car through a hoop of fire and in mid air jump out and kill 20 people by tethering them to a passing by seagull then tether all 20 bodies and the seagull to said submarine car and tether that to a helicopter and then get in the car and do doughnuts around the helicopter in the sky while its on fire, all at the same time doing backflips on a stunt motorcycle and clothsline passing by motorists with my quad hook while listening to my 78 different radio channels which are upgradable? Thats some bull****, not buying this stupid game....

LOL are you serious ?

[Rozzatron]

and tether that to a helicopter and then get in the car and do doughnuts around the helicopter in the sky while its on fire

Don't you mean VTOL Harrier?

[Steeve]

LOL are you serious ?

Sarcasm mate :D

[Hrc_Cro]

But what will happen if you tether car to very fast boat?
Will it sink or will it bang all over the water?

[yellow submachine gun]

It's really isn't bad news at all. It's more realistic

the game isn't supposed to be realistic. It's not a life/world sim. There's a ton of stuff in just cause 2 you couldn't do in the real world... And that's sort of the point.
:hmm:

[JustBecause_2010]

lol, another disappointment in the run up to the release.

[hugeHUGEpig]

lol, another disappointment in the run up to the release.

get out

[HavokBR]

It's ok for me if you can't tether a heavy plane to a building. I would be bizarre if the grapple was that strong... and a big plane couldn't fly because of the grapple... it would not make sense (in a bad way, not fun way as the game wants to be).

But I still hope we can tether a plane to each other and see funny reactions depending on their speed...

[Ketchupman95]

the grapple IS very strong. in one of the videos (don't remember which one) you can see rico tethering a fast heavy jeep to the ground and it takes off and spins around.
pretty strong I think :)

[bob o.O]

Ketchupman95:
Strong, but not strong enough for making a passenger plane stuck to the ground.
Not very realistic, but not very unrealistic.
I think that's alright.
Anyway i'll buy the game and have fun playing it :)

Sry for my language if i messed up somewhere, i'm not from an english speaking country

[MonkeyBanana]

Hmm, my story on this forum is. First 100 posts, just an average game. Then I read some awesome things and I thought this game was going to be the best one ever. No all those things like no vtol, no drive-bys and all this things make my expectations for this game to a little bit higher than average. I think GTA:SA will stay king of the sandbox games... but I'll be looking out for this one to.

[Ketchupman95]

Hmm, my story on this forum is. First 100 posts, just an average game. Then I read some awesome things and I thought this game was going to be the best one ever. No all those things like no vtol, no drive-bys and all this things make my expectations for this game to a little bit higher than average. I think GTA:SA will stay king of the sandbox games... but I'll be looking out for this one to.

no game will ever beat GTA:SA. except JC2. maybe
let's hope for the best guys but JC2 has good chances I think. :scratch:

[WeeRuz]

Guys.. Demo has already been somewhat modded.. Dont you think modders can make the tether stronger if they can add bubbleguns?

[evelystira]

Guys.. Demo has already been somewhat modded.. Dont you think modders can make the tether stronger if they can add bubbleguns?

notice the date of the original post.. :P

[FilbertFarmer]

For the record, the guy with the bubble gun didn't make it, it was already there in the code. The developers made it and then hid it in the demo code. I don't know why exactly they would do that though...

[DarkJee]

you cant grapple a plane to a building.

hum o.0 its because... I grappled a plane to a building, the ground, trees, and each time the plane went SOI SOI SOI SOI

so yes, you can grapple a plane to a building...

[NovaSilisko]

Grapple will snap if you tether a plane to a building? Bah! I just did that several times today in the demo. Once to a statue, once to a bell tower, and once to a mountain. All three sent the plane flailing into the ground and Rico flailing into the air!

[MenacingInfluence]

This is a bit off-topic, but I love how all the people on this forum have to replies for everything. If there's something unrealistic in the game, and it's lame, they say "Oh, this game is MEANT to be unrealistic!" but if there's a missing feature that's unrealistic, they say, "It's for added realism! Duh!" MAKE UP YOUR GODDAMNED MINDS PLEASE!

[billybee]

There's one thing I was QQing about in the demo. I detached a minigun, tethered it to a transport chopper but the grapple snapped when I tried to lift it. My plan was to fly the minigun to a more crowded area to wreak havoc. Oh well. I ended up slowly carrying it 12 miles into town instead.

And in case you care about the end of the story, I blew up like 50 vehicles before the guards threw a huge pile of grenades at my feet and blew me to kingdom come.

[Akrupa45]

In the demo, I got the peek airhawk, flew it really low, got in stunt position, and tethered it to the groung. It worked great. And that was the demo... Apparently the full game has a stronger grappling hook. I pesonally think that what they meant was like a jumbo jet to a skyscraper... Lol that would be just rediculous now wouldn't it.

[Akrupa45]

O and p.s. I heard somewhere (don't remember where) but I did head that the only thing that would guarantee the snapping ot the cable Was the JUMBO JET

[Deadman]

Why is there a thread filled with people complaining they can only do the ridiculous, not the stupidly ridiculous?

[NovaSilisko]

Why is there a thread filled with people complaining they can only do the ridiculous, not the stupidly ridiculous?

This.

[Impious]

Its probably just a way to stop people re-creating 9-11 incidients etc.. and uploading videos on the PS3 version, probably for the best.

Just think, for every piece of bad news/thing you cannot do, there are 20 good things/things you can do, if not more :)

how does a grappling a plane to something recreate 9-11? I can still crash a plane into one of the bell towers in the game and collapse the top with no grapple at all.

[AssassinAgent47]

yeah I heard you can't milk a cow in JC2 I'm killing everyone at school tommorrow and I don't even go to school I'm 40

[Sir Legendhead]

Its probably just a way to stop people re-creating 9-11 incidients...Lol. I did that in the demo.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s173/sirlegendhead/jcgif.gif

Also, in the full game, is there any way to have multiple lines thrown out simultaneously? In the demo you only get one at a time.

[iTerror]

yeah i heard you can't milk a cow in jc2 i'm killing everyone at school tommorrow and i don't even go to school i'm 40

:lol:

[WeeRuz]

notice the date of the original post.. :P

Bleh, never been good with noticing dates :P Sry 'bout that :D

[NightmareStorm]

yeah i know, but its the simple things like these that can make a huge difference.

limitation is the biggest killer for a game.

a 'snappable' tether is a major limitation in my view.

thats one of the things everyone talked about for months now.. tethering a plane to the ground as it takes off to see it nose dive.. I GUESS NOT! :mad2:

done the plane to ground thing.... its AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tether the plane, and the ground as far form the pane as u can. then get it plane and get as much speed and air as you can before reaching the end of the grapple thing.... u'll do a super fast backflip and land on the ground perfectly if done right!!
my jaw dropped the first time i did that!