View Full Version : I am so SORRY for bringing this up, but...
JustCause.i.can
02-17-2010, 01:51 PM
why do people want VTOL so much :S Whats meant to be so fun about it?
I AM SORRY PEOPLE, IT WAS JUST BUGGIN' ME
theo3335796
02-17-2010, 01:52 PM
its easy for combat,you can just hover and shoot everyone,also easy take off as you dont need a runway
dragonfruit
02-17-2010, 01:54 PM
What do VTOL stand for ? :confused:
LIGHTS
02-17-2010, 01:57 PM
What do VTOL stand for ? :confused:
Vertical Take-off and Landing.
dharma54
02-17-2010, 01:58 PM
it's not that bigger a deal,besides there's helicopter's.
HHDnBKing!
02-17-2010, 02:03 PM
Because the Hydra from GTA: SA was and still is a Legendary vehicle! Helicopters are slow as **** compared to Jets and you can't stand on top of them whilst hovering ;) The Producer even said VTOL isn't too complex for JC2 so we want it in a patch after JC2's release.
JustCause.i.can
02-17-2010, 02:03 PM
it's not that bigger a deal,besides there's helicopter's.
That exactly what i was thinking, but i can kinda imagine it and it looks fun but life goes on in the end i spose and its only a game :D.........a brilliant game i might add hehe
jackmap
02-17-2010, 02:04 PM
I was wondering the exact same thing...I guess this thread will hopefully answer some of my questions...
antonio13
02-17-2010, 02:10 PM
Because the Hydra from GTA: SA was and still is a Legendary vehicle! Helicopters are slow as **** compared to Jets and you can't stand on top of them whilst hovering ;) The Producer even said VTOL isn't too complex for JC2 so we want it in a patch after JC2's release.
Well... cant get everything we want, but for me i would just use a helicopter, but it would be cool to have a harrier and then just blast off if you were getting shot to much
and where did you here from a producer that it wasnt to difficult to put vtol in
HHDnBKing!
02-17-2010, 02:14 PM
and where did you here from a producer that it wasnt to difficult to put vtol in
Chris Dillon (Producer) said this when having a discussion with MCM about VTOL:
VTOL would be a complex vehicle but not beyond the capability of the Just Cause 2 engine.
dharma54
02-17-2010, 02:14 PM
Because the Hydra from GTA: SA was and still is a Legendary vehicle! Helicopters are slow as **** compared to Jets and you can't stand on top of them whilst hovering ;) The Producer even said VTOL isn't too complex for JC2 so we want it in a patch after JC2's release.
i stand corrected.:o:o:o:o
FilbertFarmer
02-17-2010, 02:25 PM
I like the Idea of VTOL for practicle reasons.
Many of the runways in JC1 were near impossible to take off of without crashing the plane into a poorly placed tree or rock...not to mention the fact that taxiing down a runway took a lot of skill.
The landing of aircraft was also difficult, however, this is certianly not a problem in a game with unlimited parachutes.
I just like the idea as an easier means of using fighter planes as continuous transportation, rather than a disposable one.
Wenis
02-17-2010, 02:34 PM
If you want VTOL use a helicopter simple as that
HHDnBKing!
02-17-2010, 02:40 PM
If you want VTOL use a helicopter simple as that
Read the posts before:rolleyes:
HavokBR
02-17-2010, 02:43 PM
it's not that bigger a deal,besides there's helicopter's.
Agreed.
The major point has always been: If you're going to include a specific model of craft, as opposed to another model, it only makes sense to include the very thing it is most known for, otherwise, don't use that specific model.
Sadistic_Sandbox_Player
02-18-2010, 08:43 AM
If you want to know read our reasons in the vtol rant thread and the vtol petition.
The main reasons are, a Harrier without vtol is ****, and a true Harrier would be the only way to use the dual hook while on a stationary aerial vehicle. That's why choppers don't serve.
In addition to that, adding a deceiving vehicle just for advertising purposes is a bad strategy
demonkidproductions
02-18-2010, 08:58 AM
It all seems pretty pointless to me, i'd find it funner trying to take off properly and land properly, i bet if they implemented it into the game then nobody would use it that much anyway.
HHDnBKing!
02-18-2010, 09:00 AM
i bet if they implemented it into the game then nobody would use it that much anyway.
Reason being? Ohh just like the Hydra in GTA: SA was barely used.. :rolleyes:
MonkeyBanana
02-18-2010, 09:00 AM
It all seems pretty pointless to me, i'd find it funner trying to take off properly and land properly, i bet if they implemented it into the game then nobody would use it that much anyway.
But the point is, you are not the only one playing this game, and they should try to make the game the same amount of fun for everyone who pays money to play it
Sadistic_Sandbox_Player
02-18-2010, 09:01 AM
It all seems pretty pointless to me, i'd find it funner trying to take off properly and land properly, i bet if they implemented it into the game then nobody would use it that much anyway.
Don't bet too much. You may not care, but many of us do as it was demonstrated.
dragonfruit
02-18-2010, 02:20 PM
Vertical Take-off and Landing.
Thanks. That would be awesome if it's in the game.
jhonny cage
02-18-2010, 02:25 PM
The major point has always been: If you're going to include a specific model of craft, as opposed to another model, it only makes sense to include the very thing it is most known for, otherwise, don't use that specific model.
:) indeed
HHDnBKing!
02-18-2010, 02:27 PM
Thanks. That would be awesome if it's in the game.
It would be awesome but it's not in JC2 which was why that petition was made. The Producer said we'd maybe see VTOL later, maybe.
JaycTwo
02-18-2010, 03:31 PM
It would be awesome but it's not in JC2 which was why that petition was made. The Producer said we'd maybe see VTOL later, maybe.
Maybe as in "Yea u no wut.. I dont have the talent to impliment such feature, so its most likely not going to happen, but if someone wants to volunteer and do it for us...."
unwoundkiller
02-18-2010, 05:21 PM
have you ever played GTA SA the harrier or hydra WAS HOLY **** AMAZING!!!!
JaycTwo
02-18-2010, 05:45 PM
have you ever played GTA SA the harrier or hydra WAS HOLY **** AMAZING!!!!
I dont even think GTA SA could have been the success it has and still is if it didnt have the VTOL harrier..
I mean, whenever I play SA, i always need to immediately spawn it and fly and do stunts under bridges or for urgent use
This sounds like an everyday use that any jet without VTOL can do.. BUT
GTA SA spawns any vehicle 10 ft ahead of player position, so
- If I were on a busy street? thats right. VTOL.
- If I were in need of urgent flight or escape in a tight spot, thats right. VTOL
- If I wanted to land on the top of a 10ft2 building and do some crazy stunt with the jet, thats right. VTOL.
Like others said, if your going to sell apples at a grocery store, dont have them be fake plastic ones.. Its either an apple, or it isnt.
Excuses like "The controls are impossible" and "The engine cant comprehend the differences" is bull****.. the controls are more than easily possible and if needed, you can have the jet rely on a small compact seperate engine for its use.
Weather you like it or not, JC2 will include VTOL either on or after release, Wanna know why I know? Community demands and the Communities Power of Opinion, thats how.
We have the power to easily turn heads on this game if we really wanted too, we are the people who are the mouths, we say whats on our mind for all the readers to read. We have the final opinion.
Dedimes
02-18-2010, 10:29 PM
Many of the runways in JC1 were near impossible to take off of without crashing the plane into a poorly placed tree or rock...not to mention the fact that taxiing down a runway took a lot of skill.
Yeah, i remember the bad runways... including the "Big bump in the center of the runway" and the "have to turn your plane 45 degrees without flipping your plane to take off" runway lol
brauny
02-19-2010, 12:15 PM
there was one runway that gave u like 50 ft of runway and then a fence so u could never take off without hitting the fence, it was terrible
Rozzatron
02-19-2010, 12:23 PM
Excuses like "The controls are impossible" and "The engine cant comprehend the differences" is bull****.. the controls are more than easily possible and if needed, you can have the jet rely on a small compact seperate engine for its use.
The game engine or the jet engine?
jhonny cage
02-19-2010, 12:32 PM
The game engine or the jet engine?
your speaking to a ghost:)
Sadistic_Sandbox_Player
02-19-2010, 12:32 PM
I dont even think GTA SA could have been the success it has and still is if it didnt have the VTOL harrier..
I mean, whenever I play SA, i always need to immediately spawn it and fly and do stunts under bridges or for urgent use
This sounds like an everyday use that any jet without VTOL can do.. BUT
GTA SA spawns any vehicle 10 ft ahead of player position, so
- If I were on a busy street? thats right. VTOL.
- If I were in need of urgent flight or escape in a tight spot, thats right. VTOL
- If I wanted to land on the top of a 10ft2 building and do some crazy stunt with the jet, thats right. VTOL.
Like others said, if your going to sell apples at a grocery store, dont have them be fake plastic ones.. Its either an apple, or it isnt.
Excuses like "The controls are impossible" and "The engine cant comprehend the differences" is bull****.. the controls are more than easily possible and if needed, you can have the jet rely on a small compact seperate engine for its use.
Weather you like it or not, JC2 will include VTOL either on or after release, Wanna know why I know? Community demands and the Communities Power of Opinion, thats how.
We have the power to easily turn heads on this game if we really wanted too, we are the people who are the mouths, we say whats on our mind for all the readers to read. We have the final opinion.
^ Awesome. *cheers*
Why was this guy banned?
MonkeyBanana
02-19-2010, 12:39 PM
Jayc banned, omg he had such good ideas with his bubble gun :) To bad the best won't last
Sadistic_Sandbox_Player
02-19-2010, 12:41 PM
Anybody knows what he did? Not everyone bothers on doing such elaborated posts here
brauny
02-19-2010, 12:42 PM
^ Awesome. *cheers*
Why was this guy banned?
he made a second account and posted a fake conversation between the 2 saying that he had the demo and then he made some stupid thread about what a banhammer is
Sadistic_Sandbox_Player
02-19-2010, 12:44 PM
he made a second account and posted a fake conversation between the 2 saying that he had the demo and then he made some stupid thread about what a banhammer is
Ugh! All that? Hell, the fake conversation part is ridiculous and kinda odious :hmm::confused:
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